Comments on: Jere Beasley Endorses Artur Davis for Governor

By: Baudrillard

Baudrillard — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:08:37 +0000

William, I actually agree with you on that issue. I just disagree that Davis’s stance on that one issue makes him definitively a liberal. I think the definition of a moderate is one who moderates between positions. Davis has taken some sconservative stances on other issues, but I don’t that makes him a conservative. His mixed stances makes him a moderate as best I can tell.

By: William

William — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:10:19 +0000

Look, we may have to agree to disagree on this issue, but to say that making each employee’s vote in a pro-union vs. anti-union fight public knowledge is “just letting people join a union by signing a card” is being dishonest.

The card check bill will outlaw secret ballots. Wonder if you’d be okay with that in other elections? Doubt it.

Secret ballots give the employee the most ability to withstand pressure from either side of the union issue and should be preserved for to protect the employee (you’d think that the UNIONS would be FOR that – they would be if they weren’t just out for themselves).

By: jpo

jpo — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:13:59 +0000

it’s not armageddon. it just lets people join a union by signing a card whether than having an election. there’s a cottage industry around scaring workers to death over unions and it won’t go away just bc of card check. there may be more unions b/c the process won’t favor management scare tactics. but the biz argument that unions will pressure people is nonsense. what is the union going to do, fire people?

By: William

William — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:45:41 +0000

I have heard business people describe the card-check bill as Armageddon so I think it’s pretty important. PLUS – as I said – that bill is not the only example of the fact that Artur is not a moderate. He may be considered a moderate in DC, but here in Alabama, he’s a liberal.

By: 2010

2010 — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:30:33 +0000

there is no way any significant business interests will be with artur. I think he knows that so what the hell….bring on the trial lawyers to back him…

By: Baudrillard

Baudrillard — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:24:58 +0000

A wedge issue?

By: Common Sense

Common Sense — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:12:53 +0000

efca is a game changer, it is the equiv of partial birth abortions in the pro-choice, pro-life debate. If you support it you are not a moderate

By: Baudrillard

Baudrillard — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:19:35 +0000

William, I agree that the check-card bill is not one that business interests in Alabama favor. And, as a pro-growth moderate, I am not a fan of the bill, either. I do, however, caution against painting a portrait of any candidate based on a single bill.

I am not naive enought to believe that Davis won’t be charicatured as a socialist liberal, but I only ask that we try and back up our labels with sufficient support. Davis, unlike many of his Dem collegues in the House, has a record of being a pro-business moderate, and I’m just not sure that one bill changes that seven year record.

By: 2010

2010 — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:15:44 +0000

I agree 32. In no way is davis a moderate. His voting record says otherwise. His supporters want you to think he is a moderate in oh so many ways….but, that is flat out false.

By: William

William — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:16:23 +0000

Davis would have had plenty of money due to the fact that he is a sitting Congressman and due to the sources of money outside of the state of Alabama who are chomping at the bit to help elect the first black governor of Alabama (the poster child for racism – past and present).

The truth is that Davis is NOT a moderate. He is smart. He is a good speaker. But he is not a moderate. Please tell me how co-sponsoring the card check bill is moderate or pro-business. It is neither and that is just one example off the top of my head.

By: anonymous

anonymous — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:13:50 +0000

Some of the reactions to Beasley miss one little tidbit: he backed Riley four years ago. I think this move says less about Davis’ political views and more about the fact that he knows he needs some Democratic money source to offset the negative ads that are coming his way. AEA and the gambling interests are with Cobb, ALFA is with Sparks and while not everyoneknows it, the BCA actually has more ties to Cobb than Davis. I’m with you, 30, I wish none of these contenders had ties to special interests but the truth is they all do, and Davis would be very naive to think that he could raise money without one of those interests.

By: From the Middle

From the Middle — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:46:40 +0000

Say It Ain’t So Artur…..

We were so ready to support a moderate Democrat, a pro business solid Democrat, a level headed black man with sound judgement to lead us finally out of our past. The business community was out there, just waiting. And you blew it. You blew it for us, you blew it for yourself, and most of all, you blew it for Alabama. With the once in a lifetime chance of bringing us all together, you choked. You traded a mandate for the opportunity to be the house negro for the trial lawyers. The one group who has done more to harm our state than anyone since the crowd that kept your people away from the polls so many years ago. It’s sad, so sad, because it didn’t have to be that way, shouldn’t have been that way.

You could have made a difference. But you have made the same.

I am a new poster, and a conservative Dem/Liberal Republican. I just want someone good and not tied to special interests. I was excited about this candidacy, but this upset me so much, this is my first post on a website ever. Just to clarify.

By: From the Middle

From the Middle — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:42:32 +0000

Say It Ain’t So Artur…..

We were so ready to support a moderate Democrat, a pro business solid Democrat, a level headed man with sound judgement to lead us finally out of our past. The business community was out there, just waiting. And you blew it. You blew it for us, you blew it for yourself, and most of all, you blew it for Alabama. With the once in a generation chance of bringing us all together, you choked. You traded a mandate for the opportunity to be the house negro for the trial lawyers. The one group who has done more to harm our state than anyone since the crowd that kept your people away from the polls so many years ago. It’s sad, so sad, because it didn’t have to be that way, shouldn’t have been that way.

I’m sorry, we’re all sorry. You could have made a difference. But you have made it the same. And our beloved Alabama will be the worse for it.

By: 2010

2010 — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:37:07 +0000

ummmmm, CC, please tell me how Alice Martin is in any way related to the discussion above?

but to reply….of course she (Martin) is leaving as US Atty for her district. Obama will appoint new ones. That is how the system works big guy…..

By: CC Dollar

CC Dollar — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:35:26 +0000

too bad about alice martin, eh 2010….