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		<title>By: curious</title>
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		<dc:creator>curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wondering what you good folks think the gop needs to do to get back on track???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wondering what you good folks think the gop needs to do to get back on track???</p>
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		<title>By: dylan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes we can. I do love how Obama now says that the &quot;change&quot; will be a little slower than promised, like probably won&#039;t happen until his &quot;fifth&quot; year. Thank goodness for term limits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes we can. I do love how Obama now says that the &#8220;change&#8221; will be a little slower than promised, like probably won&#8217;t happen until his &#8220;fifth&#8221; year. Thank goodness for term limits.</p>
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		<title>By: ProgressiveE</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProgressiveE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob Dylan don&#039;t hate - celebrate</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 04:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harri Anne Smith is done...period.</description>
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		<title>By: dylan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>again, 68, the only people that won it for bright were the African-Americans voting in montgomery to make history for Obama. Bright&#039;s win is circumstantial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>again, 68, the only people that won it for bright were the African-Americans voting in montgomery to make history for Obama. Bright&#8217;s win is circumstantial.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#60 and all of you people assigning blame should look to Bright&#039;s team of consultants. He had beautiful positive ads, the best pollster in the country, and an unbelievably smart and capable campaign manager. I volunteered for the campaign and was always struck by how cordial and upbeat the staff was - they all worked together to make history!

Everyone wants to blame someone for losing the race for Jay Love, but we should all look to the people who won it for Bobby Bright!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#60 and all of you people assigning blame should look to Bright&#8217;s team of consultants. He had beautiful positive ads, the best pollster in the country, and an unbelievably smart and capable campaign manager. I volunteered for the campaign and was always struck by how cordial and upbeat the staff was &#8211; they all worked together to make history!</p>
<p>Everyone wants to blame someone for losing the race for Jay Love, but we should all look to the people who won it for Bobby Bright!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny - don&#039;t you find it rather interesting that people are calling your info &quot;bogus&quot; even when it is based on published sources, but provide no sources of their own to contradict your posts.  They tell you &quot;we know - take our word for it.&quot;  I think I tend to believe published infornation more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny &#8211; don&#8217;t you find it rather interesting that people are calling your info &#8220;bogus&#8221; even when it is based on published sources, but provide no sources of their own to contradict your posts.  They tell you &#8220;we know &#8211; take our word for it.&#8221;  I think I tend to believe published infornation more.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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I was hoping that after the election the civility would come easier.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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<p>I was hoping that after the election the civility would come easier.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.politicalparlor.net/about/#commentpolicy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I do appreciate it when we can be civil&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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<p><a href="http://www.politicalparlor.net/about/#commentpolicy" rel="nofollow">I do appreciate it when we can be civil</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lessee... lots to catch up on here...

Anonymous in #13, those are good points you make.  I believe that the Birmingham News article today (Thursday) is evidence that as more people start paying attention to the 2010 Governor&#039;s race, more people are going to want to know why Obama&#039;s #&#039;s are not a good yardstick to use in considering Davis&#039;s candidacy.  I think Davis can make that case, but a stronger showing in Alabama by Obama would very much have helped Davis.

Anonymous in #15, your tangent is welcome.  If it is not meant to be a tangent and is meant to be on point, let me point out that I did not say Smith had a good year, I said she had a good night.

Anonymous in #19, your point is taken.  I&#039;ll adjust the post.  And thanks for the link to the Federated Electrical Contractors website.  :)

Dylan in #60, what &quot;bogus info&quot; do you think has been &quot;passed along&quot; here?  I would be glad to know what specifically you think is bogus.  Thanks!

Dylan in #61, success has many fathers.  Some will assign Smith some credit, others won&#039;t.  I know that I heard some GOPers assigning her some blame for the loss.  Clearly, she &lt;i&gt;wanted&lt;/i&gt; to have an impact on the election.  If you want to say she had no effect on the race, I won&#039;t argue that; it is somewhat beside the point about whether the Bright win was good for her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lessee&#8230; lots to catch up on here&#8230;</p>
<p>Anonymous in #13, those are good points you make.  I believe that the Birmingham News article today (Thursday) is evidence that as more people start paying attention to the 2010 Governor&#8217;s race, more people are going to want to know why Obama&#8217;s #&#8217;s are not a good yardstick to use in considering Davis&#8217;s candidacy.  I think Davis can make that case, but a stronger showing in Alabama by Obama would very much have helped Davis.</p>
<p>Anonymous in #15, your tangent is welcome.  If it is not meant to be a tangent and is meant to be on point, let me point out that I did not say Smith had a good year, I said she had a good night.</p>
<p>Anonymous in #19, your point is taken.  I&#8217;ll adjust the post.  And thanks for the link to the Federated Electrical Contractors website.  :)</p>
<p>Dylan in #60, what &#8220;bogus info&#8221; do you think has been &#8220;passed along&#8221; here?  I would be glad to know what specifically you think is bogus.  Thanks!</p>
<p>Dylan in #61, success has many fathers.  Some will assign Smith some credit, others won&#8217;t.  I know that I heard some GOPers assigning her some blame for the loss.  Clearly, she <i>wanted</i> to have an impact on the election.  If you want to say she had no effect on the race, I won&#8217;t argue that; it is somewhat beside the point about whether the Bright win was good for her.</p>
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		<title>By: wonderboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>wonderboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dylan, you are just &quot;Blowing in the Wind&quot; 
Turnham helped Folsom, Baxley, (who should have lost, I think the crappy add that Tinkle ran with the stroke picture cost her that race)(probably a brain fart from Swatty and Assbell), Griffith, and by the way, Bright, (have you heard that name lately) in a seat that had been held by R&#039;s for over 40 years......... 
You lost a seat in Cullman County that EVERYBODY knows you should have won. All you guys just knew you had Bright beat but, your terrible way of dealing with people, your negative treatment of your own primary folks, and the just plain old hypocrtical atitude displayed by &quot;your&quot; man Hubbard cost your ass. Sorry Charlie...... you lose........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dylan, you are just &#8220;Blowing in the Wind&#8221;<br />
Turnham helped Folsom, Baxley, (who should have lost, I think the crappy add that Tinkle ran with the stroke picture cost her that race)(probably a brain fart from Swatty and Assbell), Griffith, and by the way, Bright, (have you heard that name lately) in a seat that had been held by R&#8217;s for over 40 years&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
You lost a seat in Cullman County that EVERYBODY knows you should have won. All you guys just knew you had Bright beat but, your terrible way of dealing with people, your negative treatment of your own primary folks, and the just plain old hypocrtical atitude displayed by &#8220;your&#8221; man Hubbard cost your ass. Sorry Charlie&#8230;&#8230; you lose&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: dylan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 04:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, and Harri Anne Smith &quot;kingmaker?&quot;  That is the most assinine thing i have ever heard in my entire life.  Someone post the video clip of her giving the CC speech, then tell me how credible she is, please people. Danny, I respect what you are doing here, and the fact that you do it for free, but good lord that is the dumbest thing i&#039;ve ever heard, kingmaker, geez.  I feel like the miller high life guy who sees the idiots cooking ostrich burger with the high life...that&#039;s not a burger, that&#039;s a bird. Harri Anne&#039;s a bird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, and Harri Anne Smith &#8220;kingmaker?&#8221;  That is the most assinine thing i have ever heard in my entire life.  Someone post the video clip of her giving the CC speech, then tell me how credible she is, please people. Danny, I respect what you are doing here, and the fact that you do it for free, but good lord that is the dumbest thing i&#8217;ve ever heard, kingmaker, geez.  I feel like the miller high life guy who sees the idiots cooking ostrich burger with the high life&#8230;that&#8217;s not a burger, that&#8217;s a bird. Harri Anne&#8217;s a bird.</p>
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		<title>By: dylan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 04:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hubbard is doing a fantastic job.  There are several known detractors that are attempting to start trouble because they have too much time on their hands, y&#039;all know who it is, so it&#039;s not like they are doing a good job of keeping it &quot;secret.&quot; It is also obvious that they are passing along bogus info to danny here, especially when you actually look at the numbers in cd2 vs previous years and how republicans performed. The ALGOP and the Love Campaign did a damn good job with turnout, they got beat by obama in Montgomery. It&#039;s not that hard people, but most of you have your blinders on, which is fine, but you are wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hubbard is doing a fantastic job.  There are several known detractors that are attempting to start trouble because they have too much time on their hands, y&#8217;all know who it is, so it&#8217;s not like they are doing a good job of keeping it &#8220;secret.&#8221; It is also obvious that they are passing along bogus info to danny here, especially when you actually look at the numbers in cd2 vs previous years and how republicans performed. The ALGOP and the Love Campaign did a damn good job with turnout, they got beat by obama in Montgomery. It&#8217;s not that hard people, but most of you have your blinders on, which is fine, but you are wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: GOP activist</title>
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		<dc:creator>GOP activist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Hubbard is doing a good job.</description>
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		<title>By: SamfordDem</title>
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		<dc:creator>SamfordDem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote the blog you just mentioned, and you mischaracterized my point.  I was not arguing that white Democrats are more likely than Republicans to be racist; I was arguing that latent racism among white Democrats in this election was a much more potent force than I expected.  

Many white Republicans are not racists and joined that party because they support fiscal and social conservatism, but many others switched from the Dems to the GOP primarily because of the Democratic party&#039;s embrace of civil rights and African-Americans.  The effect of that on Alabama&#039;s electoral tally has been obvious since the Sixties.  I was focused on those who have been more than willing to vote for a socially progressive white candidate (John Kerry) but not a socially progressive black candidate (Barack Obama).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote the blog you just mentioned, and you mischaracterized my point.  I was not arguing that white Democrats are more likely than Republicans to be racist; I was arguing that latent racism among white Democrats in this election was a much more potent force than I expected.  </p>
<p>Many white Republicans are not racists and joined that party because they support fiscal and social conservatism, but many others switched from the Dems to the GOP primarily because of the Democratic party&#8217;s embrace of civil rights and African-Americans.  The effect of that on Alabama&#8217;s electoral tally has been obvious since the Sixties.  I was focused on those who have been more than willing to vote for a socially progressive white candidate (John Kerry) but not a socially progressive black candidate (Barack Obama).</p>
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