Last Night’s Election - Who Had a Good Night? Bad Night?
There is an obvious list of winners and losers from last night. Beyond those, let’s consider others…
Who had a good night?
- U.S. Rep. Artur Davis - Wins a hotline into the White House to his friend Obama and has to be pleased about recruiting winners to run in the 2nd and 5th Congressional District.
- Republican Control of the Courts - After Sue Bell Cobb’s victory, business conservatives vowed to not let it happen again. Shaw’s campaign wasn’t pretty and Dems can claim a moral victory that that Pasuer ran ten points ahead of Obama. But at the end of the day the business conservatives got what they wanted. Republicans also continued their undefeated six year streak on the Criminal and Civil Appellate Courts.
- Josh Segall - From nowhere to 3 points short of upsetting a sitting Congressman, Segall ran a hard-charging campaign and has positioned himself for future runs.
- Harri Anne Smith - Smith’s tough year would have gotten worse if the man she crossed the aisle to endorse had lost. Instead Bobby Bright wins by only ~1700 votes. As the saying goes, “If you can’t be king, be kingmaker.” (Hers was not a passive endorsement, for example, the Parlor hears that Republicans on her email list received email from her asking them to support Bright.) Bright’s victory gives her a close relationship with her district’s sitting Congressman and perhaps she emerges as the GOP gatekeeper for him. Some GOP’ers have plenty of hard feelings for her, but with the Dems in the state Senate looking for one more vote in their caucus for a filibuster-proof majority, can the GOP alienate her? The point is not that Smith is in great shape all things considered; the point is that she is in better shape after last night than she was before.
- Joe Turnham - Some Dems had grumbled about the state Dem chair, but Democrats winning two competitive Congressional races (in a Presidential year, no less) will quieten any talk of a coup.
- Bob Riley - The Amendment One vote flew largely under the radar, but Riley had to breathe a sigh of relief to see the passage of this amendment he very much supported. Had it failed, significant cuts would have been necessary and Riley’s sky high ratings could have taken a Seigelmanesque dive in the wake of harsh proration.
- The DCCC - The national Democrats invested over two million dollars between the 2nd and 5th District and pulled out wins in nationally targeted races. The DCCC faced down both the NRCC and the conservative Freedom’s Watch and won head to head on Republican turf. While Josh Segall partisans may grumble that the DCCC could have made the difference in the 3rd District, the DCCC has done a lot to exorcise some of the demons from their allegedly unjustified (although there are some Dems who don’t fault the DCCC for this) pull out in 2002 that many believe cost Joe Turnham the AL-03 race.
- Beth Chapman - Given the spike in turnout and energy, chaos abounded in a few states yesterday. But Chapman oversaw a relatively smooth Election Day and continues to restore some tranquility to an office that saw its share of turmoil previously.
- Jefferson County Democrats - The Jefferson County Dems won every race in the county except against Sessions (who won 50.7%). The JeffCo GOP is unlikely to be a factor in future statewide races.
Who had a bad night?
- Bob Riley’s Coattails - Largely MIA again. The state’s most popular politician cannot transfer that popularity to other Republicans. The three candidates most closely tied to Riley all lost: Jay Love, Twinkle Cavanaugh and Wayne Parker.
Update: A reader posits that Greg Shaw is more closely tied to Riley than Wayne Parker, and Shaw won his Supreme Court race (barring an unexpected successful challenge from Paseur). While there was apparently no endorsement by Riley for Shaw like there was for Parker, I am told that Riley did record robocalls on Shaw’s behalf. And that he did robocalls for Reed Ingram’s successful campaign for the Montgomery County Commission.
- Artur Davis’ Gubernatorial Hopes - Davis has been running a “pre-primary race” to convince Alabamians he can win if and when he gets into the actual race. His “pre-primary race” got a little harder after Obama’s winning campaign did worse in Alabama (39%, 13 points less than his national average) than Kerry’s losing campaign did in 2004 (38% and 10 points behind his national average).
- State GOP Chair Mike Hubbard - On the bad night list not because of the party’s performance but because the two high-profile Congressional losses means he faces more saber-rattling from the already existing anti-Hubbard faction of the GOP. A signature win under his leadership would go a long way.
- The James Gang - Father Fob and Son Tim were hoping to ride anti-Amendment One momentum to the starting line of the GOP gubernatorial primary. But instead Amendment One passed and the grassroots conservative energy didn’t develop, perhaps showing a waning of the anti-establishment GOP wing’s salad days of Roy Moore / Tom Parker / and the ‘03 Riley tax package.
On Hubbard, don’t forget that his predecessor (SP?) lost to a stroke victim bound to a wheelchair who has serious questions about her physical and mental ability to do the job. But then again anything is better than Florida Resident Jim Sullivan.
Comment by Anonymous — November 5, 2008 @ 4:06 pm
(should be) Biggest Loser: Whoever told Michelle Obama she should wear that dress last night.
Comment by Anonymous — November 5, 2008 @ 4:08 pm
Smith is in great shape Danny? If she is running as a Republican for re-election. Smith and her crowd (her and Beason) have been working the phones all day — they apparently got you. If you are Harri Anne Smith and you want to run again in 2010, do you feel real strong about your chances in a primary?
Comment by Anonymous — November 5, 2008 @ 4:11 pm
Yes she is in great shape, just watch and see.
Comment by Response to #3 — November 5, 2008 @ 4:16 pm
Watch and see you implode. If you judge success by how much Lowell Barron owes you, then yes, you were very successful. Again, if I’m running as a Republican, I do not think that helps me.
Comment by Anonymous — November 5, 2008 @ 4:20 pm
harri anne smith couldn’t be the gatekeeper at disneyworld, much less for the GOP. Danny you need to reconsider some of your sources, they are lying to you.
Comment by Anonymous — November 5, 2008 @ 4:39 pm
um #4, you are evidently medicated. Smith is completely finished. For that matter, she should move with her buddy Chris Brown back to Florida where he was banished, oh, wait is he back? He is such a non issue in politics I wasn’t sure.
Comment by Anonymous — November 5, 2008 @ 4:42 pm
I think you have to add Daxx Swatek to the list. What is the guy like O for 4 in his last 4 high profile campaigns. Plus he is two years out from having his gravy train governor exit into the political sunset.
Comment by Anonymous — November 5, 2008 @ 5:01 pm
#8 surely is not Swinehart, Beason, Brown or Smith because they all lost badly.
Comment by Anonymous — November 5, 2008 @ 5:30 pm
Anonymous in #3, I believe you misread the post. I did not say that Smith was in great shape. I said she was in better shape than she was before the election.
Comment by Danny — November 5, 2008 @ 5:41 pm
Agreed that a job well done by Segall
Comment by Brett D — November 5, 2008 @ 5:45 pm
Any talk about the Montgomery Mayor’s race?
I think that might be a great opportunity for Josh Segall.
Although if he waits for 2010 he has plenty of opportunities there. He did a lot better than a number of the DCCC golden child candidates in other states. Rematch vs. Rogers in 2010?
Comment by Progressive Electorate — November 5, 2008 @ 6:02 pm
Danny, I don’t know if I agree with your take on Davis. i am sure he was hoping for a stronger Obama showing, but it seems to me that his own polling numbers matter more. Your post on AEA’s poll shows him beating the lead Republicans, and I doubt given their limited name recognition that this would change for most of 09.
Davis will have viability questions all the way through the primary and it will scare off some donors. But the people I know who think the Davis Obama numbers would be identical are people who just don’t think a black can win a major race in Alabama.
In other words, insiders who think Davis can’t win based on race are exactly where they were before Tuesday with Davis. The crowd that is less certain that race by itself dooms Davis are going to wait and see how he performs as a candidate and in the polls.
Comment by Anonymous — November 5, 2008 @ 7:03 pm
Many of my gop friends chuckle at Beason’s over-inflated opinion of himself. They joke Brown has molded him into Troy King, Jr. - major ego, no self respect. That must be his strategy for keeping his clients.
BTW, does Beason have a job? I thought legislators in Alabama were meant to part-time.
Comment by Ron Spark's Mustache — November 5, 2008 @ 7:30 pm
Smith is in much worse shape than she was before she:
1. Ran as the GOP frontrunner, put herself out there as the anointed one and then came in a distant second in the primary and barely beat the Doc from Dothan.
2. In the process, violated federal campaign finance laws and made an all around fool of herself in her ads.
3. Ran a vicious and nasty campaign against Jay Love (to which he responded) and bragged to many that she had hired some of the nastiest consultants money could buy.
4. Lost that run-off to a guy she was only months ago supposed to easily defeat (by her own polling).
5. Apparently spent more money than she could afford to spend, therefore ending up in dire straights at the end of the campaign.
6. Endorsed the Democrat for a very important Congressional race against her own party.
So, is HarriAnne Smith better off today than she was 12 months ago? She’s a loser who has to beg Lowell Barron to pay off her campaign debts. I think not.
Comment by Anonymous — November 5, 2008 @ 7:34 pm
Racism and vote for Obama.
Some of you may remember that I predicted the correlation between the percent of the county vote for McCain and the percent of the county vote back in 2000 to keep the ban on inter-racial marriage in the constitution would be greater than .7. I also suggested I should be able to get the county data today to test my prediction. Well, I’ve got the data and I ran the analysis. Correlation is .749. When I look at the percent voting for Obama, the correlation is -.749 which makes sense. In addition the regression line for the Obama analysis has an intercept of 92.65. That means the suggested relationship is that for the hypothetical county where no one voted to keep the ban on inter-racial marriage in place, is 92.6% for Obama. The slope, which tells us how much each additional percent of the vote was to keep the ban on inter-racial marriage changes the vote for president is -1.16. That means that for each additional percent of racist vote in 2000, Obama lost 1.16 percent of the vote in 2008.
After looking at this data, I have two thoughts. First, Davis is better off staying in Congress. And second, If the racist vote had not pushed votes to the Republican side like they did in Randolph, Cherokee, and Cleburne Counties because Obama is black, Segall would have beat Rogers. In these three counties Segall substantially underperformed Turnham’s 2002 vote and Obama underperformed Gore by more than 10% and they all voted more than 50% to keep the ban on inter-racial marriage.
Comment by Pecan Jim — November 5, 2008 @ 8:17 pm
pee jim, you are just as racist for attempting to link these two votes as the people you are judging as racist. you’ll never acknowledge that, but it is fact.
Comment by Anonymous — November 5, 2008 @ 8:21 pm
I think a big winner last night was Jay Love’s banker. Love is needing a loan soon.
Comment by Anonymous — November 5, 2008 @ 8:32 pm
The DCCC spent well over $1M in AL02 alone. They spent well over $1M in Al05.
www.fec.org
Comment by Anonymous — November 5, 2008 @ 8:48 pm
Guess racism explains why Obama and Sessions both carried Jefferson County.
Comment by walt moffett — November 5, 2008 @ 8:48 pm
dont think sessions did
Comment by Anonymous — November 5, 2008 @ 9:12 pm
I believe the electorate has lost in 03. They voted and now they can have Mike Rogers not answering phone calls from veterans and those concerned about education. Walt, you’ll have to teach me more about the art of winning and losing. Right now, I am too busy being angry that the DCCC did not kick in a dime to Segall. If they had paid for an ad, he could have made friends in the counties he lost by actually visiting them well before the election.
Comment by War Eagle 34 — November 5, 2008 @ 9:20 pm
amazing rogers even lied on election night, claimed segall got money from the dccc.
Comment by jpo — November 5, 2008 @ 10:02 pm
either way, don’t see how either Harri Anne Smith or Boy Wonder Segall had good nights, they lost. And last time I checked, you got no points for second (or in Harri Anne’s case, third) place. Except here.
Comment by Anonymous — November 5, 2008 @ 10:18 pm
If Segall runs again which I hope he does in two years, the DCCC will show Rogers what giving him money is.
Rogers will be less effective for these next two years than he has been for the past six.
Comment by Progressive E — November 5, 2008 @ 10:57 pm
Incumbent Republicans and incumbent white Democrats who will be up for election in 2010 both had a bad night in Jefferson County.
Black candidates can win any primary they want (See: Dan Weinrib) and they’ll win the general election too as the county GOP smolders in flames.
If you are a black and politically ambitious resident Democrat of Jefferson County, taxpayer jobs are yours for the taking.
That’s not a racist talking, its a realist.
Comment by Scorpius — November 5, 2008 @ 11:01 pm
You are, as always, half right. The Jefferson County GOP is officially extinct. GOP Chairman David Wheeler was an embarassment and should resign. He cost one GOP candidate a place on the ballot and caused two others to have their names misspelled on the general election ballot. Then the GOP went 0 for 6 in county races. Where’s Bert Jordan when they need him?
Comment by Roy — November 5, 2008 @ 11:23 pm
I don’t agree about incumbent white Dems being in trouble in Jefferson. I can’t think of any that will get primaried.
The quality of the Dem candidates was much better than the Republicans outside of John Amari.
Comment by Progressive E — November 5, 2008 @ 11:35 pm
War Eagle 34, read Ecclesiastes 12:8 or Frankl’s Mans Search for Meaning, which should be findable at the library.
Comment by walt moffett — November 6, 2008 @ 6:49 am
Jay Love has a solution for the over $1 MILLION dollars in personal debt he ran up thanks to his buddy Mike Hubbard’s insistence he could win this race with party “help” against other Republicans in the primary:
“Fifty . . .fifty dollar . . .fifty dollar foot loooong”
Comment by The Jolly Jokester — November 6, 2008 @ 7:11 am
The continued attacks on Harri Anne after last night’s disaster are amusing. She has been blamed for all of the many failures of Dax and Mike Hubbard and his insider crowd since the primary.
Give it up guys. It’s silly. Did Harri Anne cost you HD 12 and the McKinney race too?
“The fault lies noit in our stars, but in ourselves.” - Shakespeare
Dax should read some Shakespeare.
Comment by The Jolly Jokester — November 6, 2008 @ 7:14 am
we need to abandon the two-party fraternity and become a country within a country
Comment by new party — November 6, 2008 @ 7:16 am
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Comment by Danny — November 6, 2008 @ 7:36 am
Shakespeare knew alot! They need to go to the Shakespeare theatre in Montgomery instead of Bucks Pocket!
a friend
Comment by Don Diego de la Vega — November 6, 2008 @ 7:40 am
I didn’t see Harri Anne on the ballot Tuesday. Just Dax’s candidate losing again . . .after outspending his opponent better than 2-1 . . .just like in HD 12 . . .and McKinney.
Losing and Dax - great pair says the Bear . . . .
Comment by Anonymous — November 6, 2008 @ 7:57 am
HD12 - Beason and Brown?
Give it up Harri Anne. You lost (twice).
Comment by Anonymous — November 6, 2008 @ 8:06 am
I still don’t see where Harri Anne lost even once last night. Just checked the ballot and she wasn’t on it . . .
I see where Dax lost the +17 CD2 though . . .and a cool million of Jay’s money . . . . That is approxmately 200,000 foot-longs . . .
Nice try to change the subject though. Clumsy and ineffective but you did try. Just like spending all that money losing shows effort. Doesn’t show intelligence, skill, or responsibility with money, but it DOES show effort. Goody for you! Good luck in your next career.
I hear they may be hiring at Subway. Just don’t let Azbell eat up all the profits.
Comment by Anonymous — November 6, 2008 @ 8:16 am
As an aside - did any other district in the entire United States show a greater disparity in their PRESIDENTIAL and CONGRESSIONAL vote than CD2?
I am sure none did. It would be interesting to find out when in American HISTORY there was a greater disparity.
Actually Dax & Mike did a truly remarkable job that will be talked about for years. As in one of the most incredible losses in Alabama - if not national -congressional political history.
Comment by Anonymous — November 6, 2008 @ 8:23 am
#37 - so childish
Comment by Anonymous — November 6, 2008 @ 8:24 am
#37 Hear they’ll be hiring at Country Crossing, too. That is, whenever some dirt is turned. Maybe, Pigianne can be gatekeeper there.
Comment by anonymous — November 6, 2008 @ 9:03 am
Bobby Bright did not win in the Wiregrass. That’s where HAS tried to throw some weight. If she becomes the “ear ” to Bright, she’ll infuriate even more Republicans. She’s lost all respect here. Bright didn’t even win her home county, even after all her robo calls and public (embarrassment) endorsement of him.
Comment by anonymous — November 6, 2008 @ 9:19 am
#41 You are correct. But Jay Love under performed in all of the Wiregrass counties. If he slipped a point in all of them, that is why he lost.
Comment by Anonymous — November 6, 2008 @ 9:50 am
Jay Love received 60+% of the vote in Geneva County - Smith’s home county. How was that underperforming?
Comment by Anonymous — November 6, 2008 @ 10:02 am
Progressive E is a graveyard whistler.
Also, I have to laugh at the absolute stupidity of the comment that the Dems had better quality candidates. You can go down the list and every one of the Republicans was MUCH more qualified than the Dem, except in the Tax Collector’s race. But what Smallwood brought in 6 years of sitting behind a closed door was offset by his record as an incompetent, unethical boob.
The fact of the matter is that Osama bin Laden could have run as a Democrat in Jefferson County and he would have been elected by the multitudes of stupid inner-city straight-ticket voters.
It was a big Democrat year in a county that has trended Democrat for the last couple election cycles. All the smart folks who don’t live in palaces in Mountain Brook and Vestavia are bailing out of the rathole that is Jefferson County.
Comment by Scorpius — November 6, 2008 @ 10:32 am
P Jim - there were plenty of “racist” white Democrats who could not stand to vote for Obama in north Alabama but voted Dem the rest of the way. A quick look at the traditional blue collar union Democrat strongholds in north Alabama bears this out. Griffith owes a big debt of thanks to them.
Please get off of your “racist Republican” high horse because it is offensive and racist in and of itself to accuse someone of that. Your own party is knee deep in it, start there.
Comment by Anonymous — November 6, 2008 @ 10:39 am
That Jefferson County is drowning in sewer debt (pun intended) and bleeding residents to Shelby County, and education dollars too, should certainly bode well for mad Democrats to essentially own the county. The city of Birmingham is faring even worse. And yet the Dems are too blind to see how they have done it to themselves. Keep voting Dem Jeff Co. and Birmingham. Let Lala and Co. save you. They’ve done such a great job of it all this time. Good luck.
Comment by Anonymous — November 6, 2008 @ 10:44 am
Hey #18 - I don’t think Jay Love will be getting a loan soon - not with over $1 million in unsecured debt and in THIS credit market.
I hear that Jay will be doing labor for Craftmaster Printing all day and then back to a nearby Subway to make sandwiches at night . . .
Comment by Anonymous — November 6, 2008 @ 10:47 am
#43…you are right Jay got 60+% but McCain got 82%….that IS underperforming!
Comment by Anonymous — November 6, 2008 @ 11:01 am
47, did you really hear that, or are you being a jackass with nothing else to do now that your gig passing out flyers for bright at every wal-mart in the district is up? guess you’ll be gone soon when bright takes your campaign computer away. quit being an idiot and make some sense.
Comment by Anonymous — November 6, 2008 @ 11:03 am
So, Jefferson County finds itself exactly in tune with the rest of this great nation: Voting for Democrats and throwing Republicans out of office. I love America!
And Scorpius, how do the “multitudes of stupid inner-city straight-ticket voters” compare with the multitudes of rural straight-ticket voters who voted Republican and put Mary Windom on the Court of Criminal Appeals. Geniuses all, I’m sure.
Comment by Roy — November 6, 2008 @ 11:08 am
Interesting thing about the tax collector’s race was that it was the only office the Jefferson Co. GOP put an extra effort in trying to get their candidate elected, yet the democrat won with an astonishing number of votes, more than any other democrat in the county.
Comment by Anonymous — November 6, 2008 @ 11:46 am
You really have to wonder about Mike Hubbard and the job he’s doing. Next door in Tennessee the GOP expanded their senate majority by 3 seats and they won the State House for the first time since the Civil War. In Mississippi the GOP knocked out two liberal Supreme Court Justices and former Governor Musgrove in that US Senate race. In Lousianna the GOP won back that Congressional seat they lost back in the summer. Here in the north Alabama area the GOP did well in Marshall County and they knocked out the longtime revenue commissioner in Cullman County but that was about it. Thats nothing though compared to what the GOP did in neighboring states. I just dont get the love affair with Hubbard. He blew that House seat in Cullman earlier this year and his candidate for PSC loses to Lucy. I dont mean it in a personal way toward Lucy but I saw her on TV yesterday and the woman looked like she was knocking on death’s door. How could you lose to her and a US House seat that you had held for nearly fifty years? I dont get it.
Comment by dan t — November 6, 2008 @ 11:55 am
Roy, no difference. I agree with you. I’m on record in here for being against “straight-ticket” voting. It is a quick vote for the lazy and uninformed. There is no value for representative democracy by voting straight-ticket anything.
As for being in tune with the rest of the nation, you honestly consider that a GOOD thing???
Pray tell, what Democrat-controlled urban city or county is your model for public safety, education excellence and prosperity?
Comment by Scorpius — November 6, 2008 @ 12:07 pm
#39
There was some disparity in the Republican voting in District 2, but HAS’s endorsement for Bright did nothing. She’s been a dead horse here since before the primaries. Jay Love most definately carried the Wiregrass regardless of the percentage disparity between this race and McCain’s vote.
Cities like Montgomery and Birmingham vote party. People of the Wiregrass will vote for friends and neighbors. Bobby Bright has a hosts of brothers, sisters, nieces, and nephews that make up the population here. The Republican swing voters for Bright was due to friends and family of Bright in the Wiregrass. It had zero to do with HAS. If she’d had any influence, Bright would have carried Geneva County. She barely carried her home in the early primaries.
Comment by anonymous — November 6, 2008 @ 1:16 pm
Dan T. You are ignorant. Did you miss the news that the ALGOP won 6 of 7 statewide races including the only State Supreme Court race? Crawl out from under your rock and read the news. Let others know too - its missing info from this blog.
Comment by Anonymous — November 6, 2008 @ 1:57 pm
Keep on spinning #55. It’s all you can do after ther losses. Couldn’t hurt.
Comment by Anonymous — November 6, 2008 @ 2:26 pm
Just read an article on a left-leaning blog that disputes Pecan Jim’s assertion that it is Republicans who are racist.
The voter tallies show lower presidential votes for Obama than Kerry in Democrat precincts in Alabama, and higher vote tallies for state Democrat candidates (like Bobby Bright and Parker Griffith) which follows that the percentage was significant enough to devote to racism among Democrats against Obama but not other state candidates (did not look at Figures so didn’t crosstab that).
So it is true that claims of Republican racism are not only false but hypocritical if coming from a liberal. The stats actually point out that the racists were far more likely to be white Democrats.
Comment by Anonymous — November 6, 2008 @ 2:31 pm
I wrote the blog you just mentioned, and you mischaracterized my point. I was not arguing that white Democrats are more likely than Republicans to be racist; I was arguing that latent racism among white Democrats in this election was a much more potent force than I expected.
Many white Republicans are not racists and joined that party because they support fiscal and social conservatism, but many others switched from the Dems to the GOP primarily because of the Democratic party’s embrace of civil rights and African-Americans. The effect of that on Alabama’s electoral tally has been obvious since the Sixties. I was focused on those who have been more than willing to vote for a socially progressive white candidate (John Kerry) but not a socially progressive black candidate (Barack Obama).
Comment by SamfordDem — November 6, 2008 @ 3:00 pm
Mike Hubbard is doing a good job.
Comment by GOP activist — November 6, 2008 @ 9:27 pm
Hubbard is doing a fantastic job. There are several known detractors that are attempting to start trouble because they have too much time on their hands, y’all know who it is, so it’s not like they are doing a good job of keeping it “secret.” It is also obvious that they are passing along bogus info to danny here, especially when you actually look at the numbers in cd2 vs previous years and how republicans performed. The ALGOP and the Love Campaign did a damn good job with turnout, they got beat by obama in Montgomery. It’s not that hard people, but most of you have your blinders on, which is fine, but you are wrong.
Comment by dylan — November 6, 2008 @ 10:03 pm
oh, and Harri Anne Smith “kingmaker?” That is the most assinine thing i have ever heard in my entire life. Someone post the video clip of her giving the CC speech, then tell me how credible she is, please people. Danny, I respect what you are doing here, and the fact that you do it for free, but good lord that is the dumbest thing i’ve ever heard, kingmaker, geez. I feel like the miller high life guy who sees the idiots cooking ostrich burger with the high life…that’s not a burger, that’s a bird. Harri Anne’s a bird.
Comment by dylan — November 6, 2008 @ 10:12 pm
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I do appreciate it when we can be civil.
Comment by Danny — November 6, 2008 @ 10:27 pm
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I was hoping that after the election the civility would come easier.
Comment by Danny — November 6, 2008 @ 10:38 pm
Dylan, you are just “Blowing in the Wind”
Turnham helped Folsom, Baxley, (who should have lost, I think the crappy add that Tinkle ran with the stroke picture cost her that race)(probably a brain fart from Swatty and Assbell), Griffith, and by the way, Bright, (have you heard that name lately) in a seat that had been held by R’s for over 40 years………
You lost a seat in Cullman County that EVERYBODY knows you should have won. All you guys just knew you had Bright beat but, your terrible way of dealing with people, your negative treatment of your own primary folks, and the just plain old hypocrtical atitude displayed by “your” man Hubbard cost your ass. Sorry Charlie…… you lose……..
Comment by wonderboy — November 6, 2008 @ 11:02 pm
Lessee… lots to catch up on here…
Anonymous in #13, those are good points you make. I believe that the Birmingham News article today (Thursday) is evidence that as more people start paying attention to the 2010 Governor’s race, more people are going to want to know why Obama’s #’s are not a good yardstick to use in considering Davis’s candidacy. I think Davis can make that case, but a stronger showing in Alabama by Obama would very much have helped Davis.
Anonymous in #15, your tangent is welcome. If it is not meant to be a tangent and is meant to be on point, let me point out that I did not say Smith had a good year, I said she had a good night.
Anonymous in #19, your point is taken. I’ll adjust the post. And thanks for the link to the Federated Electrical Contractors website. :)
Dylan in #60, what “bogus info” do you think has been “passed along” here? I would be glad to know what specifically you think is bogus. Thanks!
Dylan in #61, success has many fathers. Some will assign Smith some credit, others won’t. I know that I heard some GOPers assigning her some blame for the loss. Clearly, she wanted to have an impact on the election. If you want to say she had no effect on the race, I won’t argue that; it is somewhat beside the point about whether the Bright win was good for her.
Comment by Danny — November 7, 2008 @ 1:13 am
Danny - don’t you find it rather interesting that people are calling your info “bogus” even when it is based on published sources, but provide no sources of their own to contradict your posts. They tell you “we know - take our word for it.” I think I tend to believe published infornation more.
Comment by Anonymous — November 7, 2008 @ 7:08 am
#60 and all of you people assigning blame should look to Bright’s team of consultants. He had beautiful positive ads, the best pollster in the country, and an unbelievably smart and capable campaign manager. I volunteered for the campaign and was always struck by how cordial and upbeat the staff was - they all worked together to make history!
Everyone wants to blame someone for losing the race for Jay Love, but we should all look to the people who won it for Bobby Bright!
Comment by Anonymous — November 7, 2008 @ 7:27 am
again, 68, the only people that won it for bright were the African-Americans voting in montgomery to make history for Obama. Bright’s win is circumstantial.
Comment by dylan — November 7, 2008 @ 11:40 am
Harri Anne Smith is done…period.
Comment by Anonymous — November 7, 2008 @ 10:29 pm
Bob Dylan don’t hate - celebrate
Comment by ProgressiveE — November 8, 2008 @ 9:29 am
yes we can. I do love how Obama now says that the “change” will be a little slower than promised, like probably won’t happen until his “fifth” year. Thank goodness for term limits.
Comment by dylan — November 8, 2008 @ 9:39 am
Just wondering what you good folks think the gop needs to do to get back on track???
Comment by curious — December 29, 2008 @ 9:59 am