Freedom’s Watch in AL-02

October 17, 2008

Filed under: Campaign & Election, AL and DC — Danny @ 9:05 am

Here’s an ad that Freedom’s Watch has been running in AL-02 that I had not seen until a reader alerted me to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAYIO0AXpLs

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The city of Wetumpka better look out, knowing Bright he will sue the city for alleged false advertising on their sign. He loves to sue, just ask the folks in Pike Road.

Comment by Anonymous — October 17, 2008 @ 9:16 am
What’s the city’s portion of the local sales tax?

How does it compare to Birmingham, Mobile, Huntsville, etc?

Comment by The OC — October 17, 2008 @ 9:27 am
nevermind, I looked it up:

Montgomery — city 3.5%, county 2.5%
Mobile — city 4%, county 1.5%
Birmingham — city 4%, county 2%
Huntsville — city 3.5%, county .5%

It looks like Montgomery’s city sales tax is in line (or lower).

Comment by The OC — October 17, 2008 @ 9:36 am
The ad is somewhat misleading. Vintage Jay Love. Is it effective? I would put it in the midrange of his ads so far. By the by, has Love run a single positive ad in the general election?

Comment by Anonymous — October 17, 2008 @ 10:02 am
No Love has no good ads in the general election. He is such a slease. He is all negative all the time!

Freedom’s Watch makes people sick. Love doesn’t have control over it. But Love’s ad and The NRC’s ad are just as bad as FW.

Comment by Person Over Party — October 17, 2008 @ 10:07 am
#3, is it broken down like that when you buy something? 10% is 10%, no matter how you break it down

person over party (which is ridiculous in it’s own right), “jay’s a sleaze” “jay’s a sleaze,” you have to be a 6 year old. it is a silly remark and makes you look like a fool.

Comment by Anonymous — October 17, 2008 @ 10:13 am
Thanks post 6, for actually having some sense. And speaking of “cents” … as the sign says 10% is what you pay in Mgm no matter how you try and break it down.

Comment by Anonymous — October 17, 2008 @ 10:52 am
The last penny was put on by the wonderful REPUBLICAN county commission when the schools were in proration. It was supposed to be for 2 years. So much for the county keeping their word. So tell me how you blame Bobby for 10 cent sales tax. Love’s campaign is lie on top of lie.

Comment by sick of half truths & lies — October 17, 2008 @ 12:21 pm
nah, 8. if it was you would have more to offer than just saying “lie, lie, lie.” But i’ll give you credit for the “last penny,” at least that is somewhat original and a new talking point. I’ll tell you how you blame bobby: he is the mayor, the leader, supposed to be fighting for lower taxes not celebrating high taxes. He is the leader, which means he should have been able to pull people together and not let the mall just up and leave a vacant structure. Bright is a failure and a fraud, i assure you there is evidence to back that up. much more than your “liar, liar pants on fire” approach.

Comment by Anonymous — October 17, 2008 @ 12:29 pm
If Bright opposed the sales tax increase, why didn’t he veto it when it passed? By taking no action to stop it, that means he supported it.

And if you think you can get by with saying Montgomery’s sales tax is only 3.5%, try paying that instead of 10% the next time you buy something. Let’s see if the police agree with you.

Comment by Anonymous — October 17, 2008 @ 12:48 pm
#10: “…And if you think you can get by with saying Montgomery’s sales tax is only 3.5%, try paying that instead of 10% the next time you buy something…”
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Don’t be stupid; look at the figures again

The state gets 4%, the city gets 3.5%, and the county gets 2.5%.

I pay the state, city & county sales tax for a business … not just at the resgister.

Comment by The OC — October 17, 2008 @ 1:41 pm
OC, you can try and explain it away all you want, but the simple fact is that if you buy something in montgomery, aka montgomery’s sales tax, you will pay 10%

Comment by Anonymous — October 17, 2008 @ 3:05 pm
#12 - are you unable to comprehend that Bright and Montgomery are only responsible for the 3.5 cent sales tax the CITY imposes? The other taxes are imposed by OTHER GOVERNMENTAL BODIES. He has nothing to say about those. He can’t make the rules for the state or county. Are you that dense?

Comment by Anonymous — October 17, 2008 @ 3:54 pm
just looked at a receipt from the chevron on ann street in montgomery, yep paid 10% sales tax on this pack of crackers.

Comment by Anonymous — October 17, 2008 @ 3:58 pm
Y’all can vote for Love or Bright, I don’t really care … but don’t be ignorant and think the City’s share of the tax is anything else other than 3.5%.

COUNTY Commission: http://www.mc-ala.org/Home/Elected%20Officials/County%20Commission

CITY Council: http://www.montgomeryal.gov/index.aspx?page=42

[and, of course, the state gets their 4%]

Comment by The OC — October 17, 2008 @ 4:16 pm
If you’re so happy with bobby then by all means, keep him as mayor. has he decided to sue any other neighboring towns or cities today in order to get their sales tax revenue?

Comment by Anonymous — October 17, 2008 @ 4:21 pm
Maybe he can borrow some of the $1 BILLION bucks in Jay Love’s tax hikes . . .oh wait . . .voters rejected those . . .just like they will reject Jay.

Comment by Anonymous — October 17, 2008 @ 4:36 pm
I’ll go ahead and be the pariah here. I can’t seem to get my head around the fact that this whole conversation centers itself around the idea that tax increases are a constant evil. I’m aware of the physical danger that this statement may cause me in Alabama if said outloud, but sometimes raising taxes is the fiscally responsible thing to do. If the people of Montgomery want improved economic opportunity, then it often requires building that opportunity. In order to build that opportunity there has to be some sort of revenue to fund it.

Mayor Bright has done good things in Montgomery, and he has been the leader that this city has needed for quite some time. To question his leadership skills or call him reckless solely because he didn’t veto every single proposed tax increase is silly and myopic.

My point isn’t that Mayor Bright is perfect, though I think that he has been a great asset to Montgomery and a catalyst for valuable progress; My point is that the discussions on this blog regarding Mayor Bright’s tax record are all intellectually dishonest because they operate on the premise that all taxes are bad. I don’t like paying taxes but I recognize that without those taxes that I hate paying I would have no roads, no policemen, no firemen, no military to protect my country, no garbage pick-up, no jails, no bridges. These things don’t pay for themselves.

Love’s ads distort facts–Bobby Bright is certainly no tax-happy spending liberal. But maybe we would all be better served to have a real conversation about what defines fiscal responsibility and effective government.

Comment by Anonymous — October 17, 2008 @ 4:43 pm
good point 18. Dare I say I actually voted for amendment 1 when it was a referendum. I also supported a 1 cent sales tax increase in my city. it is true that both bright and love and their supporters carry an issue to an extreme. but from what i see, the bright folks cry foul over and over and and don’t want to admit they do the same thing love does. man up guys - at least admit you play the same game. no one likes a whiner

Comment by Anonymous — October 17, 2008 @ 8:33 pm
Here is the TRUTH. Jay Love’s ads and the trash the Republican party is putting out is NOT TRUE. It is pure lies. They take one word out of the Montgomery Advertiser from a random article put it in a sentence they write which gives it a new unintended meaning and call it a news quote. If it were not such a serious matter, it would be considered comical. These guys are political thugs. It does not seem to matter to Jay Love or the so-called professionals in his campaign that many people can see the intended wrong-doing. The people I am hearing on the street say they are at the end of their political careers when their ship sinks on this one. I guess they think they can cmapaign like this and squeek out a win and we will forgetthe wrong-doing. Sweet justice will come when they lose AND are tarnished for good -candidate and staff.

Comment by CJWilson — October 17, 2008 @ 9:48 pm
I am a Republican and for many years have supported republican candidates. I will vote McCain, Sessions but not Love. Since I live in Montgomery and have owned a business here for many years, I know the successes of Mayor Bright. I do not him personally and I do not think he is always the best spokesperson, he often appears unpolished but he is honest, hardworking and has improved our city dramatically over the last decade. I am familiar with the city’s finances and Montgomery is finacially much better off than most comparable cities. I say all this to say that even though I do not know Jay Love, I thought he was a decent person until this year. I do not know where he is getting his advice but I am ashamed of him as the nominee for our party. His negative ads and sour attitude have been as low as I have seen in an election. His claims against Mayor Bright are transparent attempts to paint the man and our fine city in a dismal light. As a citizen, I do not appreciate his political aggression and the lack of integrity he has shown. I just hope that good will prevail over evil. I trust that voters can see the desperate nature of Mr. Loves actions.

Comment by Rod F — October 17, 2008 @ 10:02 pm
Once again this blog is so full of Bright lovers from the City of Montgomery. What is so odd is that you guys think as Montgomery goes, so goes district 2. Give me a break. While Obobby may make some folks in Montgomery happy, other places aren’t buying it. Bright will get eaten up in the Wiregrass as well as Autauga and Elmore counties. He will lose while all you guys in Montgomery wonder what happened because you can’t see the forest for the trees.

Comment by Anonymous — October 17, 2008 @ 10:44 pm
Oh my goodness, should anyone defend or support Bright they must be staffers or city employees. Get a grip, lots of us appreciate Bright’s accomplishments and successes. Sure, he’s common and slow talking, but he says what he means and means what he says. I often disagree with his objectives, but dad-gum-it, he is right more often than he is wrong. At the very least, I know he will do what he says, and not tell me one thing then do another. He’s man enough to make a public committment to run a positive campaign and stick too it. I really don’t care what banner he’s running under, I trust him and he has my vote! So, you have my name - go ahead kick me out of the Republican party!

Comment by RRabton — October 17, 2008 @ 11:20 pm
oh my goodness, i trust him, blindly, while knowing he is a complete fraud. start calling you rsheepton.

Comment by Anonymous — October 17, 2008 @ 11:36 pm
What I want to know is why you Jay Love staffers who post on here constantly refuse to respond to the issue of the lies, deceptions, lies, twists of facts, lies misrepresentations, altered video, skewed figures, lies, shady political tricks, intentional half truths and lies you have put out for the sake of a win? Does the end really justify the means in your book? You guys justify it in the name of politics but you need to step back and look at the bigger picture; is it really worth it? Do you not see what you are doing to your professional careers? Are any of you decent enough to at least feel bad about it? I am beginning to think you are either too immature to understand or you are truly a bunch of evil people.

Comment by Bright Supporter — October 18, 2008 @ 6:15 am
Thanks Bright supporter, for casting stones. Maybe you shouldn’t live in that glass house buddy. This is politics - no one likes it but they all seem to do it. Check out the Obama Mccain race if you don’t think so. But you Bright supporters and bright himself act outraged and free of any association with such ads. It’s a joke and total hypopcrisy on your part. The DNC is as guilty as the RNC and freedom’s watch for running ads you are talking about. Bright has said things and personally attacked Love more than you know. Yet then walks outisde the meeting and smiles like the member of the jack ass party that he is. So stop your whining and grow up.

Comment by Anonymous — October 18, 2008 @ 7:52 am
Another BS add paid for by a casino owner who is the largest american individual investor in communist red China. As for the ad, nice throwing in the comparison to the big cities. Those are really peer groups for Montgomery. I love how the LOVE bunch is now trying to discount their support in Montgomery. They are now trying to tell us all Montgomery is essentially irrelevant in this race. Seems to me if Montgomery had not come through so strong for Love in the primary run-off he would not have beaten Smith. I know the dynamics change greatly in the general but Love best not discount the importance of Montgomery County. The Wiregrass vote is the difference maker in this race. I am anxious to see what the Love hangover is from doing Smith so dirty. Or let me rephrase this: the republican party screwing her over. Love has driven a lot of people to vote for Bright or not to vote in the election that would have otherwise voted GOP. Keep up the attacks Love coupled with even your supporters who know you have not accomplished anything of merit since you have been in the legislature. Other than take all that per diem money even though you only live a few miles from the statehouse. This press was kind to you when they noted you lived 8 miles from the statehouse. You might live 8 miles away now in the mansion you built but during the first part of your tenure in the legislature you only lived about 4 miles at the most from downtown Montgomery. If you were going to take all the undeserved per diem money you could have at least used it to pay for some of your employees to have healthcare. YOU ARE NOT WHAT YOU SAY YOU ARE MR. LOVE.

Comment by Tim Banks — October 18, 2008 @ 8:10 am
I beg to differ Mr. Love staffer. It does not have to be politics like this. Bright has not been personally associated with ANY negative politics. Jay Love’s ads are trashy lies. It is not JUST politics. That’s what Mr. Love said to Harri Anne when he asked her for her endorsement and she declined. He told her he knew his ads against her were untruthful and he said it was “just politics” Your group is lower than low and your response to my post says it all. Jay Love is a deacon who knows Bobby Bright is not what you are portraying him to be. The bottom line is Jay Love will sell his very soul to win and he has surrounded himself with low life who continue to convince him that it is JUST POLITICS. If Jay will go this low to win we must make sure he never ends up in Washington. He could not stand up to the pressure there. When this is over, Jay will be tarnished and you guys will be finished. Bright is running an honorable campaign and his message to all who help him is that that is the way it must be. We need that type of leadership in Washington. You nor your candidate will ever be worthy. Deacon - what a JOKE.

Comment by Bright Supporter — October 18, 2008 @ 8:32 am
Bright Supporter, you are as disgustingly sanctimonious as your fraud candidate. That’s nice, “deacon - what a joke,” boy, i tell you, keep calling the man’s faith into question like bobby and the dccc, i assure you that will backfire. that’s your problem, all of you are in this little bobby bubble where you assume everyone is sympathetic to all your whining, you’d think this was a race for 3rd grade class president. it’s congress, a big boy game, and jay love has effectively shown, at every turn, that bobby bright is a liar, his campaign pledge is worth jack, and he has no vision. if a campaign is based on a pick up truck and a bs pledge that he broke, then the people deserve to know that. get a life, go put out some more bright republican signs or something, just stop with the “the jay love campaign is beneath us and they are childish” stuff. it’s old and dumb.

Comment by Anonymous — October 18, 2008 @ 9:58 am
Come on fellows. Your personal attacks here are not productive. Let’s stick to the facts. Any business person in district 2 knows the difference in city sales tax and county sales tax. The Freedom Watch ad plays to those with less knowledge of the facts; those who prefer to be spoon-fed a particular view. It is effective with those that it targets. Will it make a difference on election day? Probably not, because those who believe it already had their minds made up anyway.

Comment by Anonymous — October 18, 2008 @ 12:09 pm
Harri Anne Smith fired her entire campaign staff after the primary and hired scott beason and company for the run off and went around the wiregrass happily telling everyone how they would carve up jay love and please give her money. she threw mud first and she got it back in her own face and got her butt beat. and rightfully so. there is no love lost for her after the way she acted and the folks she begged for money down here that was basically wasted. the wiregrass knows that she started it and she deserved everything she got. period. there are 3 folks lined up to run for her senate seat from dothan in 2010. the last poster has zero clue what is going on in dothan. no doubt yet another blogger from montgomery. Love is wiping the floor with Bright here and it will be a deciding factor. don’t change the facts and re write history on mrs. harri smith. i actually supported her initially but our eyes were opened.

Comment by Anonymous — October 18, 2008 @ 2:48 pm
>>He is such a slease. He is all negative all the time!

Apparently, calling someone a “slease”(sic) is not negative…

Comment by Onelife — October 18, 2008 @ 4:42 pm
I said something positive about Love to a neighbor. The neighbor surprised me by responding that Love looked “sleazy” and she would not believe anything he said. I had not noticed that about how he looks in his ads. Perhaps it is his words that are carrying over to her perception of his appearance. Anyhow, I thought it was an odd statement at the time, but maybe not.

Comment by Anonymous — October 18, 2008 @ 6:33 pm
33, i’m sure that’s true. sounds completely believable.

Comment by Anonymous — October 18, 2008 @ 8:33 pm
Bright for Congress in 08. We definitely don’t need the lying Love and gang in Washington to keep the watch for us, thats for sure.

Comment by anonymous — October 19, 2008 @ 3:18 am
Bright supporters are getting more and more bitter. I guess that happens when poll numbers slip. If you wonder what the neighbors in the Wiregrass think, post 33, come on down. It will be 3 to 1 in favor of Love if you ask.

Comment by Anonymous — October 19, 2008 @ 7:51 am
Bright is so far ahead it has sent Jay Love into a crazy desperate mode. What comes next? Voters get ready, Jay’s gonna pull the big one soon. This ia a million dollar loss to him, out of his own pocket!
Just what will he do?

Comment by Bright Supporter — October 19, 2008 @ 3:09 pm
Bright so far ahead? Wow. Shall I wake you up from that dream? Maybe you should leave Montgomery City Hall for a while and come outside.

Then again, I guess you are busy coordinating with ACORN.

Comment by Anonymous — October 19, 2008 @ 6:16 pm

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