Nationwide on McArthur’s Side
Forbes.com has a story about the supplemental retirement savings program offered to Alabama state employees offered by Nationwide Financial Services (the Nationwide Insurance folks):
How Nationwide got this exclusive deal says a lot about the often cozy, pay-for-play relationships between public employee unions and business.
Nationwide pays $1 million a year to the Alabama State Employee Association for the right to sell its savings plan to state workers. It’s a great deal for the union, which has gained financial and political clout with the money, and a great deal for Nationwide. It’s not so great for workers.
The article comments on deal details that are “poorly disclosed” and adds that “ASEA President Edwin Jean (Mac) McArthur Jr. has used secretive payments like Nationwide’s to generate much of his union’s $3 million in revenue.”
The full story is here.
Hmmm . . .I think it has been pointed out on numerous occasions that the biggest political supporter - financial and otherwise - of Jay Love has always been the Alabama State Employees Association.
Could this story impact the congressional race?
Comment by Anonymous — July 30, 2008 @ 11:09 am
Hmmm…I think it has been pointed out numerous times that the biggest supporter of Bobby Bright is Nancy Pelosi and Charlie Rangle. Could this impact Bright’s chances? Idiot.
Comment by Anonymous — July 30, 2008 @ 11:28 am
Mac McArthur is a crook. This Nationwide revenue funds almost 40% of the association activities. Associations can’t just take endorsement fees they have to justify them as expense reimbursement or be where the company is buying something of value from the association like advertising. When they buy something it has to be a fair price not some way off the scale price. There has to be a lot of activities going on at the association for them to come close to justifying over $1 million per year. Anybody see that huge house McArthur lives in? It is huge. His wife is a former school teacher. He makes something like $170,000 a year. Either McArthur has made some really good investments or Nationwide has invested in him. Nationwide looks to really be on his side. McArthur, what a slimeball!
Comment by Anonymous — July 30, 2008 @ 11:40 am
Nationwide in the past has employed the Matrix firm to help do PR as well as lobbying work to get a special retirement program passed by the legislature for the state employee association. Because of this the company, Nationwide, is obligated to report to the legislature when they spend more than $250 per day on a public official. All state employee board members are public officials. They travel on Nationwide’s dime multiple times a year to major cities where the company picks up airfare, hotels, meals, special event expenses, and so on. Nationwide is in violation of the state ethics law which the state employee union heads helped write and pass. Also, these are expenses that should be reported to the retirement program members and reflected in their expense to investment return ratios. As many of you may know the ethics commission can’t initiate an investigation of something like this until someone files an official complaint with the ethics commission. I encourage any state taxpayer to do so. This is yet another example of how the state employee union gets special treatment.
Comment by Anonymous — July 30, 2008 @ 12:10 pm
You seem to be very well versed on this issue. Why don’t you be the one to initiate a complaint?
Comment by whodunit — July 30, 2008 @ 12:41 pm
Insurance companies are crooks to begin with, and unions are corrupt and worrthless. I don’t see this as a news story. Bottom Line: don’t belong to a union and don’t trust an insurance company.
Comment by anonymous — July 30, 2008 @ 1:01 pm
Everyone supports Jay Love!!!
Comment by anonymous — July 30, 2008 @ 1:02 pm
Good point #7 - this benefits the state employees union AND big insurance - Jay’s biggest support groups!
Comment by Anonymous — July 30, 2008 @ 1:09 pm
State employees only have the last two weeks in July to get out of ASEA - what a ripoff! I’m sending in my resignation TODAY!! ASEA used to be worth the money - since McArthur got there, it has gone downhill and has really changed - now I know why - his loyality is to others, not to me!!!
Comment by TopGun1998 — July 30, 2008 @ 2:03 pm
sounds to me the higher a person goes the crooked the office is but i know one person that will stick to his belifes.,,,, that person is Bobby Bright……Nancy polosi or Charlie Rangle won’t tell him what to to,don’t know why you keep bringing them up.
Comment by D Rosevelt — July 30, 2008 @ 2:18 pm
Post #5. My job is one where I can’t risk the crap McArthur would give me or have my supervisors give me. Any taxpayer could bring a complaint. I hope someone who can’t be intimidated by McArthur’s koons will do exactly that. It is also just wrong and I believe illegal for Nationwide or the retirement plan members to pay their money to the shell corporation McArthur has set up and in turn pay a large part of McArthur’s salary. Would any company not expect the director of the union not to have his judgment affected by putting a large chunk of change into the union coffers? Can the union and McArthur really say they choose the best program provider for state employees when they are in effect a part to bribery?
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Comment by Danny — July 30, 2008 @ 2:38 pm
Speaking of #9 — anyone wonder why Forbes (such a balanced publication) might have made a decision to run a story that impugns ASEA’s finances during the last week in July? Hmmm…
Comment by an onym ous — July 30, 2008 @ 2:39 pm
Anyone have particulars on the suit mentioned in the article?
Also, not surprising to read the plan sold is of dubious value. Most of the supplemental plans sold to state workers were.
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Comment by Danny — July 30, 2008 @ 3:08 pm
Why does McArthur refer so many cases to Jerry Beasley’s law firm? Could it be he gets referral fees as an attorney? I wonder who McArthur has referred Nationwide to for legal service in the state? This would probably be a 1099 event so it would be hard to find out unless his tax records got pulled into some legal matter. Might that be how McArthur affords the huge house? I don’t guess his members ever wonder why he refers cases so often even though the union claims as a major benefit their big staff of very good lawyers. They are very good at passing cases to plantiff firms. I’ll give em that.
Comment by Anonymous — July 30, 2008 @ 3:10 pm
I don’t know all the particulars about the case. I read a story a few weeks ago which talked about the lawsuit. It said the State Personnel Board had filed the suit against either Nationwide or the employee union on behalf of affected state employees. It also mentioned the board had some type of role in the approval process but it was a role where all the board could really do was approve whomever the union recommended manage the retirement plan. I would be willing to bet you could get a copy of the lawsuit or at least a bit more info on it by calling the State Personnel Department at (334) 242-3389. I do not remember where it said the lawsuit was filed.
Comment by Anonymous — July 30, 2008 @ 3:19 pm
I don’t know the corporate structure of Nationwide but since they are a huge insurance company is this not something the State Insurance Department should look into. I understand the retirement plan offers annuities. Or, this might be a better fit for somebody like Joe Borg with the State Securities Commission to look into. I guess time will tell if anyone gives a hoot about state employees being ripped off.
Comment by Anonymous — July 30, 2008 @ 3:44 pm
It was actually a group of employees who filed the suit in Jefferson County (it has been removed to federal court I think). The Personnel Department just hired an attorney to investigate the claims to determine if approval for the Nationwide plan should be revoked in the interest of employees. I fully agree that all state employees should immediately be informed of this accusation today and withdraw from ASEA before the end of the month while they still have the chance.
Comment by distressed in montgomery — July 30, 2008 @ 3:53 pm
Did some poking around. Nationwide’s Edgar filing with the SEC shows this case has been kicking around since 2007 shuffling from Jefferson County Circuit Court to Federal District Court with no disposition yet.
For those with PACER access, it appears to be entitled Ruth A. Gwin and Sandra H. Turner, and a class of similarly situated individuals v NLIC, NRS, Alabama State Employees Association, PEBCO, Inc. and Fictitious Defendants A to Z.
Also, looks like folks are recycling allegations that were flying around when Macarthur was with the Ethics Commission and doing useful work.
Comment by walt moffett — July 30, 2008 @ 4:01 pm
McArthur and Ethics - what a crock! The Ethics Commission tried to prosecute him in 2001. But the Alabama Supreme Court said, get this: The Ethics Commmisison could not refer the complaint to the Attorney General, but had to send it to a three-judge panel!!! What is wrong with ASEA members - do they really want someone like that to be known as their leader? Ex parte E.J.M. (Edwin Jean McArthur) 829 So.2d 105
Comment by MarilynJ — July 30, 2008 @ 4:28 pm
Guess they are using some of this money to pay for the wrongful death lawsuit against ASEA that was filed in Macon County! I heard it cost them millions!!!
Comment by JoeBar — July 30, 2008 @ 6:41 pm
Just got back from riding by the home on Pike Road that a friend of mine said belonged to Mac Mcarthur. They have got to be mistaken, there is no way he can afford that kind of house unless he is getting a great deal on a subprime mortgage….I need to know his secret The place is HUGE! Does he really have one of those huge houses on Pike Road or is this a joke?
Comment by anonymous — July 30, 2008 @ 6:46 pm
I am a memeber of ASEA and I knew nothing about any of this. I joined back when Mark( ?)
Williams was the director and I thought that
ASEA actually helped the small workers. Macarthur apparently is just in this for himself. Based on this article, everyone who trys to save money by putting some in Nationwide is getting ripped off - that is ME! For the organization that is supposed to help state employees to be the ones ripping us off is criminal and something needs to be done! I want the moneys that I should gotten but for this crooked deal
Comment by anonymous — July 30, 2008 @ 6:54 pm
MarilynJ, thanks for the case styling. Can you tell which county it was filed in and maybe the case number? Don’t subscribe to Alalinc so would have to toddle to Court house if really wanted to read it. Also, have to admit I confabulated him with Melvin Cooper.
Anonymous in # 13, who benefits? Internal power struggle at ASEA? Wall street traders? ASEA has been useful to the state in fending off unions so don’t think its anyone there.
Anonymous in #24, can an employee organization help small workers when their supervisors, directors etc are also members?
Comment by walt moffett — July 30, 2008 @ 7:23 pm
I understand that none of you get what is actually going on. There is absolutely nothing illegal or shady going on with the relationship between ASEA and Nationwide. All membership organizations, including the ones you are all members of, have these arrangements. The fee that Nationwide pays is not disclosed until after negotiations are concluded. ASEA has no knowledge of the fee until after the contract is signed, not to mention the money that the association pays for outsIde consultants to ensure the best plan is offered to members and employees.
What you all are probably upset about is the amount if good that McArthur has brought to all state emloyees in Alabama. He has turned a stagnant organization into a major political player in Montgomery, benefiting the thousands of state employees that work hard for Alabama’s citizens every day.
Comment by Anonymous — July 30, 2008 @ 7:51 pm
#26, could you please note the ‘good’ that ASEA has done? State employees would love to go back to biweekly pay, but ASEA won’t let it happen. Plus, I heard that ASEA has tried to get two merit employees fired. If ASEA is so great, why did the correctional officers and state troopers need their own unions? Plus I heard that most of ASEA’s ‘clout’ was used for gambling bills this year. How did that help state employees? I have no doubt that ASEA could do a lot of good for employees under different leadership.
Comment by distressed in Montgomery — July 30, 2008 @ 8:17 pm
I agree with #26. As a proud member of ASEA, Mr. McArthur has achieved way more than I ever dreamed possible. We are getting a 3.5% COLA in a year when budgets were dismal. When he speaks people listen and that is what I want in my leader. He believes in the plight of state employees and for that I am grateful.
Comment by Anonymous — July 30, 2008 @ 8:21 pm
AS a long time correctional officer, I left ASEA after I found out that it was NOT helping state employees, but was doing nothing but carrying out McArthur’s personnal vendettas. I am a proud member of the correctional officers own association and after learning this, am glad I left. I just want to make sure that they stop stealing from me and stop getting paid from an insurance company for ripping me off!!!
Comment by Donaldson273 — July 30, 2008 @ 8:21 pm
Apparently NO. 26 must be Mac McArthur or one of the Board members that gets to go on those nice trips that I paid for….
Comment by Donaldson273 — July 30, 2008 @ 8:23 pm
yea, a 3.5% increase when the teachers got a 7% increaase last year….kudos… Also, funny that ASEA takes credit for it. Without the Governor’s agreement, it never would have happened.
Comment by anonymous — July 30, 2008 @ 8:25 pm
#27, hard feelings Massey?
Comment by Anonymous — July 30, 2008 @ 8:25 pm
Looks like Mac has gotten his troops mobilized for the comments….. to funny.
Comment by anonymous — July 30, 2008 @ 8:28 pm
How did ASEA pay for the wrongful death lawsuit? Was it nationwide money or mine? Macon Co. 2007-900016. Does anyone know where the money came for to “quietly” settle this case?
Comment by anonymous — July 30, 2008 @ 8:35 pm
Is Mac supporting Bobby Bright or jay love? Bright gave Mac TWO reserved parking places in front of the State House while other organiations are told that it can’t be done. ASEA is one block from the State House!! Of course, Mac Sr. works in the Capitol and has one of ASEA’s parking places….must be nice….
Comment by anonymous — July 30, 2008 @ 9:22 pm
I wonder if Mac’s little darlings will get a raise for defending their boss so valiantly on here…surely there’s some Nationwide money hidden somewhere to fund it?
Comment by Tit for Tat — July 30, 2008 @ 10:00 pm
Not sure if the parking space thing is true, but frankly, if my son had a parking spot available behind my building, I’d park in it too! Mac Sr. is one of the nicest men I know. He always greets everyone who visits the Capitol with a cheerful hello. I heard that Mac Jr. is adopted, which would explain how the apple fell so far from the tree!
Comment by Anonymous — July 30, 2008 @ 10:17 pm
Anyone who works in the downtown capital complex knows many state employees have to trek to their offices from the bottom of the Crampton Bowl parking area. Rather than worry about a lot of these employees who are older or whom may have health issues ASEA brokered a deal with former Mayor Emory Folmar in the election against Bobby Bright to get the association employees and select board members 20 or so reserved parking spaces directly behind their association office. Also part of that deal was the two parking spaces near the capital that are most often used by McArthur’s father and McArthur himself. The association also provided Folmar with an unbelievable amount of free advertising which was in kind that was never reported to the Secretary of State. Also the association provided all other in kind services like mailers and so on which also were never reported accurately. Bright and McArthur have had a cooled relationship ever since because McArthur was so willing to sell the associations loose endorsement for a few parking spaces so fat Mac would not have to walk so far when he went to the statehouse with his hand out. I suspect the Bright McArthur relationship is improving because Bright needs all the democrat votes he can muster. Especially those in the Montgomery area.
Comment by Anonymous — July 31, 2008 @ 8:31 am
For clarification the parking spaces obtained behind the association’s office and the two reserved for the union near the statehouse are city property. While Folmar brokered the spaces for McArthur Bobby Bright has allowed the union to maintain them. Mayor Bright has the authority to unreserve the spaces at any time. I call on all state employees to call on Mayor Bright to do so. This special treatment for McArthur and the union is wrong when people all over the downtown area are having to hump all over town to find a parking spot. Make the union employees and their director walk like everyone else. Call Mayor Bright’office at city hall 334-241-4400 and ask Mayor Bright to support all state employees and not just a few special union employees who want special treatment. If the Mayor thinks they should be reserved spaces then make them first come first serve.
Comment by Anonymous — July 31, 2008 @ 8:41 am
Has anyone ever given much thought to who the district attorney was in Macon County when and after Milton McGregor got approval to build his gambling dogtrack in Macon County. It was Mac McArthur. No wonder McArthur is so cozy with McGregor. Rumor has it McGregor basically granted McArthur a percentage of ownership in the Macon County track after McArthur left the D.A.’s office to show his appreciation. Maybe this explains the huge house. This would also explain why McArthur spent the majority of his time during the past legislative session working so hard to help McGregor pass his gambling legislation. Not only did the legislation fail but McArthur did not pass any real legislation of importance to state employees. He passed a few fru fru bills to say he did something but that was it. If McArthur had only worked as hard for state employees as he did McGregor state employees would be closer to on par with the state teachers rather than continuing to get about 1/2 of what the teachers always get.
Comment by Anonymous — July 31, 2008 @ 8:49 am
Not only does Mac McArthur step all over the backs of state employees, he also stabbed his own employees in the back when he became the Executive Director. You want to know what the real Mac is like…contact some of the people who used to work there (but no longer do thanks to being forced and or harassed by him to leave). He is a self-serving, back stabbing, evil, evil man who absolutely DOES NOT HAVE THE BEST INTERESTS OF STATE EMPLOYEES IN MIND! The only reason why there is a 3.5% pay raise is because of a deal he cut in order to say he got state employees a pay raise when in reality, state employees are getting the shaft by how they are getting paid now because of him. At least under Mark Williams and John Barganier, pay raises were worth something and the interests of state employees were being looked after. The ASEA Board is just as guilty as Mac is. They have sat by year, after year, allowing him to do whatever he pleases all the while their mouths remain shut. Unfortunately, ASEA is a complete sham now and that’s a shame! State employees and members deserve so much better!
Comment by Anonymous — July 31, 2008 @ 11:37 am
I wonder if a similar situation may exist with Dr. Paul Hubbert, and some insurance firm that provides insurance coverage for AEA members. It seems to me that I read somewhere that Hubbert is involved with insurance policies for AEA members in some way. Does anyone know?
Comment by Don — July 31, 2008 @ 1:35 pm
Mac - life comes at you fast, huh?
Comment by anonymous — July 31, 2008 @ 1:48 pm
I am a retired state employee and I am outraged about the parking spaces! The association I am in (ARSEA) sent a letter to Bobby Bright requesting just one reserved parking space. Given that ASEA has two prime parking places in front of the capitol even though their building is a block away, this did not seem to be an unreasonable request. The Mayor TURNED US DOWN!!! All state employees need to call Bobby Bright’s office demanding their own reserved parking space!!! At the very least, he should take away the two given to ASEA - which is not a government agency!!! How does a private comnpany get reserved parking on city streets????? Why just ASEA???
Comment by Retired State Employee — July 31, 2008 @ 1:49 pm
Can someone plese post a list of the ASEA Board of Directors? I can’t find them anywhere. I want to contact them and find out why they let McArthur get away with all this. Dont they hire him?
Comment by mad state employee — July 31, 2008 @ 1:53 pm
I have several friends who used to work at ASEA and you wouldn’t believe the stories they tell about Mac. He stops at nothing to get what he wants. Apparently, even taking money that should go to state employees and putting it in his own pocket.
Comment by KarenW — July 31, 2008 @ 1:56 pm
How can I find out more information about this lawsuit against ASEA? I understand from a friend of mine that if you are a plaintiff you get more money than just being part of the class action. Any ideas on who to contact to get more information? Since I defer money every month to Nationwide, I think I’m entitled to get my money back that they are giveing to Mac to pay his salary (nearly 3 times my salary) and I want to do someting about it. Any information on contact information would be appreciated….
Comment by lawsuit — July 31, 2008 @ 2:00 pm
Mad State employee, a copy of the ASEA news letter should have that info. They’re always floating around the shop, if not, the ASEA rep should know.
Don, this WSFA report may help re: Hubbard.
Comment by walt moffett — July 31, 2008 @ 2:01 pm
I believe that James Christie is the lawyer representing state employees against ASEA and Nationwide. His email address is jchristie@bradleyarant.com
Comment by anonymous — July 31, 2008 @ 2:03 pm
This is no worse than Terry Spicer walking all over the taxpayers. Spicer takes their money (three times over) and then votes for tax hikes.
Comment by Anonymous — July 31, 2008 @ 2:05 pm
I know a few of the Board members - Tom Samford, miles Gagner, Vemetta Patrick, Holly Faems, and Alice Tornton. I feel pretty sure they don’t know about all of this.
Comment by anonymous — July 31, 2008 @ 2:08 pm
No. 51: I understnad the Board Members got sent all over the country on trips by Nationwide - including Hawaii, New York, San Francisco - don’t be too sure they don’t know what is going on!!
Comment by anonymous — July 31, 2008 @ 2:11 pm
TopGun1998 in comment #9, aka MarilynJ in comment #21, aka JoeBar in comment 22, aka Donaldson273 in comments 29 & 30, aka Retired State Employee in comment 44, aka mad state employee in comment 45, aka KarenW in comment 46, aka lawsuit in comment 47,
Please choose one name and post under that name. I do not care for a commenter to use multiple names to make it appear as if more people are participating in a conversation than really are. For example, asking a question in comment 47 and answering it in 49, or asking a question in 45 and answering it in 51, and then answering #51 with #52. There is an integrity issue here.
Thank you,
Danny
Comment by Danny — July 31, 2008 @ 2:14 pm
48, hubbERT not hubbARD. wow, 9,21,22,29,30,44,45,46,47,49,51,52: you got both an agenda and time. dangerous combo.
Comment by Anonymous — July 31, 2008 @ 2:22 pm
Thanks for the reminder, its almost a “Herbert” vs “AY-Bear” thing for me.
Maybe the sock is a runner for the law firm? Who knows.
Comment by walt moffett — July 31, 2008 @ 2:33 pm
Danny, thank you for calling on Jarrod to cut it out.
Comment by Anonymous — July 31, 2008 @ 3:20 pm
Dito
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Comment by Danny — July 31, 2008 @ 3:33 pm
common danny lay down the law, let’s have an IP address?
Comment by Common Sense — July 31, 2008 @ 4:12 pm
Looks like lobbyist Jones and the Mac McArthur support group have been mobilized. It is the same with Mac as any addiction. You have to admit you have a problem first. Has the Massey guy ever been arrested for domestic abuse? Seems someone is trying to turn the focus on someone else rather than where it should be. I don’t know much about the people who were to have worked at the union but I am not aware of them having all the legal issues McArthur has? Where there is smoke there is fire. I know several of the former employees. They all tell a similar tale. Anybody with a brain who might out McArthur is sent packing. Hush money buys him friends.
Comment by Anonymous — July 31, 2008 @ 8:26 pm
gj 4golf = Greg Jones = paid lobbyist and mouthpiece for Mac McArthur: Short timer.
Comment by Anonymous — July 31, 2008 @ 8:29 pm
McArthur claims to be a strong advocate for the fair treatment of all, especially African Americans. Why in the world then would he have the state employee union allow an insurance firm called National Security Group to offer products to his members? This insurance company was successfully sued by the Beasley Law firm for charging african american policy holders higher rates than white policy holders. The insurance company settled and admitted to the practices. I wonder what type of deal the National Group has agreed to with McArthur? They must have been willing to pay a hell of a commission, business privledge fee, or whatever McArthur calls them to get the union endorsement. The state employee union has a lot of african american members. I wonder how they feel knowing their association director has sold them out. I bet he did not even tell them about the company’s previous special pricing for african american policy holders.
Comment by Anonymous — August 1, 2008 @ 10:08 am
The employee union is about protecting the principles of the state merit system which was passed into law by the legislature many years ago. The union hollers all the time about various governors and supervisors violating the merit system act. They yell loud often to say political appointees are getting special treatment over merit system employees. Yet, when it comes time to get union board members promoted McArthur forgets all about the merit system act and puts the ax to well deserving merit system employees in favor of his union board members. Anyone ever do some research and see what positions most of the union board members held when McArthur took over the union. Now look at what positions they hold today. Some major advancement took place where many of the union board members leap frogged other state employees. Ask around the state agencies. This is no secret.
Comment by Anonymous — August 1, 2008 @ 1:13 pm
Funny - I thought the purpose of the State Personnel Department was to protect the merit system and serve state employees. They just came out with that commuting program and an employee discount program, both of which are free to state employees. I just got an email about it last week. They are also the ones that gave the clerical workers a raise this year. Seems like ASEA may have outlived is usefulness, at least under Mac and his cronies. I certainly didn’t continue my membership this year.
Comment by anonymous — August 1, 2008 @ 1:38 pm
Poor Mac. He had gastric bypass surgery. He apparently has had some problems because he is once again almost as big as the big ole house he lives in.
Comment by Anonymous — August 1, 2008 @ 2:55 pm
McArthur was formerly a hearing officer who was known to rule against state employees all the time. He changed his tune when he got the fat contract at the employees association and then began talking about how awful and unfair the hearing officers were. Now that is integrity.
Comment by Anonymous — August 1, 2008 @ 3:33 pm
Why does McArthur require certain employees at the union to sign confidentiality agreements before they leave and before he will release their final paycheck? Is he concerned a former employee might spill the beans on him? What in the world goes on at that place? Makes you wonder.
Comment by Anonymous — August 1, 2008 @ 5:03 pm
Question: Does Nationwide disclose the lobbying and consulting fees they pay to Alabama based lobbyists? These expenses would clearly have to be associated with maintaining their sweetheart deal with the employee union. Are these expenses part of the Nationwide expenses not disclosed to plan participants but which effect their fund returns? I know none of these lobbyists would be paid by Nationwide but instructed by McArthur on a daily basis to carry out specific lobbying for the union. McArthur is way to ethical for that right?
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Comment by walt moffett — August 2, 2008 @ 7:46 am
My guess as to the removed comments is that Mac did what he always does…threatened to sue. I hope I’m wrong because people deserve to know the truth about his character. Thankfully a large number of people read the comments before they were removed.
Comment by anonymous — August 6, 2008 @ 2:46 pm
No one threatened to sue. I removed some ad hominem comments because I could determine neither their veracity nor their relevance to the topic at hand.
Comment by Danny — August 6, 2008 @ 3:01 pm