|
||||||
Country Singer George Jones on CD-2 Posted by Danny, on July 8th, 2008, at 2:19 pm
After being mostly gone for a week, I have been trying to get up to speed for a post about how and why people are buzzing like angry bees around a hive on the AL-02 Congressional race between Jay Love and Harri Anne Smith. But this radio commercial from country singer George Jones on the AL-02 race was too good to wait on. It’s one for the vault. 115 comments to Country Singer George Jones on CD-2 |
Daily Headlines, Saturday, 3/20/2010 Montgomery Advertiser – State’s gambling task force can resume Montgomery Advertiser – Ala. Democrats Bright, Davis to vote against health care bill Montgomery Advertiser – State briefs: Swine flu blamed in 6-year-old’s death Montgomery Advertiser – Court: Challenger rightful Evergreen mayor Montgomery Advertiser – Residents want vote on Pike [...] ChangeI wish my friend Hinton Mitchem godspeed and good luck after his retirement from public service. Hinton, on Monday, announced what many had suspected — he will not seek re-election. I remember meeting Hinton for the first time while I was a student at Auburn University. He served the people of his [...] Ten Minutes in the House, Senate Moves On Here is a quick preview of the upcoming week in Montgomery. This week will be a standard legislative schedule for the House. We will be in session on Tuesday and Thursday with committee meetings scheduled for Wednesday. Back in the Day... Union Avenue in Ozark in the 1920s |
The Alabama Line is being updated and will return perhaps as soon as the first week of February. The Alabama Line and its contents are the creation of Doc’s Political Parlor, reflect consensus from insiders and well-connected folks on both sides of the aisle, and will be updated as conditions change. These odds are meant to inform, entertain, and provoke, not to serve as actual means for losing money. Permission granted to use this material if PoliticalParlor.net is cited as the source. |
||||
|
Copyright © 2010 Doc's Political Parlor - All Rights Reserved |
||||||
Legislative Dispatch
Purple Dot Connection
2010 Big List
2010 Senate Elections
2010 House Elections
Press Releases
All of this is a shame on this district for people to act like this.I hope that this proves that Bobby Bright needs to be elected.I do believe He would hold this office with pride and dignity.
HE’s already been provened to be a good leader.I know one thing he has my respect.
A leader … hmmmm …. Tax revenues are down for the city of Montgomery, due to spending in outer communities …. in turn, due to “the great flight” out of Montgomery to escape escalating crime issues. The only thing good about Bright getting Congress (help us all) would be the the promise of hopefully better leadership for the city of Montgomery.
To John Killian – you have hit the nail on the head once again John. Jay Love’s big problem from day one in this race has been a tendency to lie about his record and to voters in elections (see 2002 race, his FCPA reports, his ads claiming to have passed tax cuts in this race, and the list goes on and on).
Corny as this ad is, it plainly and bluntly puts into the public mind that Jay Love is a liar. With heavy airplay this percepetion – a perception that Love and his team should justifiably be anxious to keep out of the discussion – will become bigger and will penetrate the public mind more.
Additionally, the ad pits the Wiregrass against Montgomery, with Jay as the Montgomery candidate. Love’s people know that motivated Wirgerass voters are not in their interest. And it is difficult to get Montgomery area voters excited about this race – their stake in this is not as large as it is for the Wiregrass.
So the ad – funny, corny, whatever – may be remembered as one of the more effective ads ever run in an Alabama congressional race.
This ad is anything but effective What planet are you living on buddy?
53, i don’t disagree that the ad does put it in the public’s mind this falsehood that JL is a liar. That is where Gilley (from now on, thanks to whimlady, referred to as “Big Time”) went too far. Big Time isn’t being exactly truthful himself, neither is HAS and probably JL isn’t either, but they are all using political speak that walks the line of truth/fiction.
#55, you can say a lot of things about Jay Love, but to say it’s a “falsehood” that he is a liar is ridculous, and I actually know some Love supporters who would agree to that point.
Just to put on the record why Jay is a rather remarkable liar even for an Alabama politician, here are a few of his bigger whoppers:
1) Appearing on Don Markwell’s radio talk show in 2002 on the eve of the GOP primary election, Jay lied in response to direct questioning from Markwell over the source of his campaign funds. Markwell has discussed this himself.
2) Jay filed a FCPA 5-10 day preelection report and signed a sworn, notarized statement that “all monies contributed and expended” were included. That was a lie by Jay’s own admission on his later (annual)report, which showed tens of thousands of dollars contributed by liberal democratic special interests days BEFORE his sworn statement, and payments to liberal democrat campaign consultants Matrix LLC days BEFORE his sworn statement as well. That’s just lying plain and simple – and you can see it all for yourself on the Alabama Secretary of State’s webpage. Look for Love’s 2002 pre-primary 5-10 day report and his annual report. It is all there.
3) Jay aired a campaign ad on election eve in 2002 claiming that Bob McKee – the most conservative member of the Alabama legislature and a man targeted by the liberal democratic unions that backed Jay – had tried to set up a legislative pension for himself. The ad was a total lie.
4) Jay has claimed during this campaign that he has “sponsored and passed tax cut legislation.” The official records of the Alabama legislature available online at ALISON prove this to be a lie as well. Jay has sponsored and passed precisely one bill – a lump sum payout to the state employees’ union membership.
5) Jay has – in TV ads – stated that Harri Anne Smith took campaign contributions from Ronnie Gilley. This is provably a lie from FEC reports.
I could go on and on, but you get the point. Jay does not tell the truth. Lots of politicians don’t, but even by politico standards Jay is a brazen, audacious liar.
All you folks so bitter over bob mckee getting beat years ago need to get over it. Jay is not a liar and no matter how many times you , or a seemingly drunk george jones want to say it, it doesn’t make it so.
From my dictionary: liar – one who tells lies.
Jay’s a liar.
Isn’t it just perfect that Jay Love and Jon Lovitz (the SNL liar) have the same initials?
“Hi. I’m Jon Lovitz and I am supporting Jay Love for Congress. My wife . . .MORGAN FAIRCHILD – yeah! Morgan Fairchild is my wife! Well, anyway Morgan and I are supporting Jay for Congress because Jay . . .is . . .a . . .SUPERHERO! Yeah! That’s it! That’s the ticket! Jay can fly and leap tall buildings and he SPONSORED AND PASSED TAX CUTS! Yeah! That’s the ticket!”
The ad is great…I sent it world wide on MSN ….Music fans are loving it!!
Did anyone see the “story” and by story I mean advertisement, WSFA ran this morning
Good job CC! You people are sick for making fun of George Jones. I have not met him yet, but when I do you can bet I will commend his ad.By the way, I have heard nothing but great things about George Jones. As for Ronnie Gilley, you don’t know the man, so don’t judge others until you judge yourself! He is a down to earth guy, what you see is what you get. Maybe you people should get to know the people you are voting for. I support Country Crossing and it is the future of Houston County Alabama! Get use to it!
Gambling may be economically lucrative for the Dothan area, but it certainly does not fit in with the traditional conservative ethos. Harri Ann may not have asked for Gilley’s support, but she sure as $*^# isn’t rejecting it. Saying that- “well, we didn’t receive any contributions, ask for Gilley’s support, etc.” doesn’t matter if Harri Ann doesn’t decry his support openly, since she claims they have had no dealings since that would be illegal. Harri Ann’s people seem to forget her original message of being the “true conservative”. Okay; if that’s the case, why try to pull the populist scapegoat out of her bag of tricks to criticize (gasp!) those evil, dastardly oil exectutives who are just steamrolling the Alabama citizenry. Spare me Sen. Smith! This ploy just proves she’s just another politician who will use any frightening rhetoric to scare voters of Jay Love and his “big oil pals”. Sounds an awful lot like what those Social Democrats would say, hmmm?
Maybe Smith didn’t reject Gilley. But then again, she didn’t ask him for money and then lie about it ala Liar Love. I’ll take my chances with Smith.
Ohh, that’s quite an informed decision. Be more than happy with a gambling kingpin’s support, acquiesce to his endorsement without a peep while simultaneously claiming no contributions since that would be illegal…hmm. Oh Wait! Actually, Harri Ann’s a liar since she said she was a “true conservative” and then started going on about Jay being in bed, basically, with ExxonMobil and ConocoPhilips. That’s a charge right out of Dianne Feinstein and Bernie Sanders’ playbooks. Harri Ann supporter-”Oh my gosh, Sen. Smith said the oil executives and speculators want to drink the blood of our children, process it, and turn it into fuel to power their Range Rovers with Jay Love making it legal! Let’s tax them- that wouldn’t hurt the free market or average consumers like us or anything”. Go grab a drink at Gilley’s bar with Karl Marx and Freidrich Engels Sen. Smith.
State House insiders say Love also double-crossed both his constituents — and his fellow Republican legislators — when he made a back-door deal with Democrats to let them raise taxes on business — though it would make Alabama less competitive with other states in the hunt for new employers. In return, Democrats agreed to back Love’s health care bill.
But with his eye on a run for Congress, Love then apparently realized that it was a dangerous time for him to vote for tax increases on businesses and thereby alienate financial contributors from the business community that he would need to fund his congressional campaign. Moreover, as Love apparently also knew, his bill would not improve health coverage for Alabamans since it offered nothing to encourage savings though tax-exempt health care savings accounts or similar means.
Having whipped up support for his bill, Love turned and voted against it himself, leaving fourteen of his fellow Republicans looking like fools for a bill that Love apparently was only using as window dressing.
What a guy!!!
You guys are a hoot. “Gambling Kingpin”…that is too funny. I think you guys have put the cart before the horse.I bet RG would love to be the “Gambling Kingpin”. That title belongs to good ole Milty. I am still perplexed as to why this obcession with RG and his character, business, personal life and so forth. Last time I checked, RG wasn’t running for office. Oh, that’s right, kill the debil who speaks against Mr.”Conservative Christian Alabama Values” Jay Love. I almost puke just typing that.
Has love finally been able to get in milty’s pocket?? sure sounds like it..
OK, southeastern Alabama’s gambling kingpin. Simply an expression. Besides, you’re missing the point- Harry Ann Smith with her new mailer and add proves herself to be nothing more than a simple populist. If voters knew anything about economics, they’d know this bs about oil companies paying their fair share and raising prices, dadadah is exactly that-bs. How dare her to pose as a true conservative?!
I think it is OK for Harri Anne to pose as a conservative since Jay Love -in the same breath that he calls himself a “Christian” – lies. That is horribly distasteful, and that is one thing you hear in the George Jones ad that is compelling.
Whether it is on Tuesday or in the fall, Jay Love will be damaged by the truth issue – as he should be. There is ample evidence that he has no allegiance to the truth.
The sad truth about Harri Ann is that she in the same breath calls herself a conservative and then starts ranting and raving about the oil companies. I could not vote in good conscience for someone on a Republican ticket, a party founded to protect the free market during the middle of the nineteenth century, who wants to tax oil companies and yet says in the same idiom that she “hates taxes”. If you’re saying that we’re choosing between the lesser of two evils, then I’d choose Jay in a heartbeat, since at least he understands and likes capitalism. The free market is what makes America great, and everyday Democrats and Republicans neglect these great freedoms. Shame on Republicans especially who cry out against the “abuses” of corporations and try to make them “pay their fair share”. Dangerous talk, that. Sounds more like socialism than conservative values.
Well, I value the truth. Jay doesn’t. He has no business in any position in government.
I think free markets, capitalism, etc. made this country great. But the first responsibility of an elected official is to be honest with his constituents. Jay was dishonest to get elected to his current office, has been dishonest with his constituents since being elected, and is being dishonest in this campaign. That is more important even than issue positions. His character is not good.
I think George Jones is wrong. He says Jay Love is a “plain . . .old . . .liar!”
Actually Jay is a very uptown, slick, sophisticated liar. He even has people he has hired to help him lie. There is nothing plain about it – it’s a lyin’ empire that Bill Clinton would envy . . . .
# 73 Dishonest about what?
For #75 – It repeats stuff from above but here goes: Jay lied on his 2002 FCPA report, he lied to his constituents about the source of his funding on Don Markwell, he has repeatedly lied about sponsoring and passing tax cut legislation, he lied about Harri Smith taking Ronnie Gilley’s contribution (and that lie is still running on TV unless it was pulled today) and it goes on and on. Apparently he lied about Gilley too as he sure as the world is very very angry.
There is ample, consistent evidence that Jay Love does not tell the truth.
Above post, check out post #56 for a detailed description of a number of Lies Jay has told that are well documented.
You know, I could honestly care less about “character”. John McCain called the people in French Indochina “gooks” but I’m still going to vote for him- and you know why?- (drum roll please) he will cut taxes, foster economic growth in the private sector,etc. Character is a purely subjective view by some voters that in my opinion constitutes a somewhat lackluster reason to vote for a person. Furthermore, Harri Ann is an even bolder liar if we’re going to talk about lies (damn, we sound like Al Franken). Foremost among these is calling herself “the true conservative” in the race and then calling on the taxation of oil companies. Absolute falsehood!
Anmyone who thinks character is subjective should definitely support Jay Love. He’s your guy.
Now I see how this blog is now…..if you don’t like it. Or it shows dates, proof and researchable evidence…..it is deleted
Another Anonymous in #80,
What are you talking about? I have never deleted a comment because it shows “dates, proof and researchable evidence” that I didn’t like.
Are you perhaps confused and looking for this comment that you left in another comment thread about three hours earlier? It had some dates, etc. That comment has certainly not been deleted.
I think you are mistaken that any comment like you describe has been deleted, but I would be glad for you to elaborate.
Danny
It looks like “the race is on” between Jay the “high tech redneck” Love and Harri Anne the “real deal” Smith. “Mr Fool” even with your “money to burn” “sometimes you just can’t win!” and that’s “the cold hard truth!” Jay, you’re “yesterday’s wine” and you have “never bit a bullet like this!” You’ll be the “big fool of the year!” “When the last curtain falls,” you will be a “fox on the run!” Because, “you can’t do wrong and get by!!” Love those Possum songs!
that’s funny danny, you can get lost in these 80 something comment threads for sure…especially after about 3 or 4 whiskey’s, isn’t that right #80? danny doesn’t delete posts unless they mention things in a similar manner to what Jesse said last night!
Danny, I apologize for the comment in #80.
Thank you for the clarification and the link to the comment I was referring to.
I did not realize I was in another thread and do not mind at all being corrected when I am wrong.
I do hope others on this thread will check out the other comment link.
Jay Love first agreed not to have negative campaign ads. His camp responded to the negative ads from HAS. He should not have done this but was lured into the fight. Jay Love was first to announce he would pull all negative ads, but he too is obliged under TV and Radio contracts. I still see and hear HAS ads that are negative so she too MUST be a liar.
As for George Jones, who cares? George is yet to be a registered voter in this district and has ties to CC. No kidding he is going to take a negative stance and promote whatever RGP’s asks, as he is a paid spokesman.
George Jones is a washed up fool and he can be made fun of for it. If you don’t want criticism keep your tired mouth shut. That goes for Ronnie Gilley too.
No doubt BamaJam was a success, and brought revenue to Coffee County, however, it also paid Ronnie Gilley. Do not act like this was a charitable event for the sole purpose of doing good in this area. It was a calculated business decision that could have gone either way.
Ronnie has made himself a target through his actions and questionable business practices and ethics. My guess is that if CC does not get approved or off the ground, RG will go belly up. Brookwood, Cotton Creek Townhomes, Steak Out, Carvelle, Prestiege Construction, and other ventures do not seem to be making money. Not to mention the countless investors that have spent money betting on RGP’s and come up short.
For #85
As George said, Jay Love is a PLAIN OLD LIAR . . .that says it all . . .
Harri Ann should have never changed her mind! It didn’t look very good especially after just a few days.Ronnie should have stayed out of this, Love didn’t drag him in this he mention his name because Ronnie was already in it.Ronnie has already told everyone that they both had been to his house.What do you think they talkd about the Drapes! of couse not Ronnie needs this political pull do make things easier down the road.Did Jay love or Harri Ann just happen to be driven by and stop in? Of couse not they were invited.I hate that Ronnie has pulled these to senior citizens into this mess! They need to be somewhere enjoying there golden years and family not being dragged into this mess ! yes I’m talking about George and his wife take just a minute and think about who they really are, there real people.This will haunt Ronnie the rest of his life if anyone needs to make a public apolige it needs to be Ronnie for letting George do that.I don’t think it was Geoges idea. Oh and by the way where are the rest of the artist ? Maybe they wern’t that easy?
Vote for Jay or Harri that is your choice, but remember what kind of world do you want your kids growing up in? Maybe you’ll vote for the gambling maybe you want, maybe your kid will work at a casino or maybe they want, maybe you’ll get to watch the gran-kids while your kids work at the casino or maybe you want.Remeber we are all just passing thru any stone you lay in motar will be hard to get out once it sets up.
[...] Things have gone south quick, and I think Smith was the first to go negative when she caled Love out for voting for Bob Riley’s Billion Dollar Tax Increase (TM) although she also voted for it. Love hasn’t been innocent either, including this website which has apparently been pulled. There’s also this radio ad where George Jones calls Jay Love a big fat liar. Things got bad enough for Governor Bob Riley and the incumbent Terry Everett to call on them to tone things down. These two are giving the Democrat Bobby Bright a good starting position. SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: “Republicans like runoff elections”, url: “http://www.dailydixie.com/2008/07/10/republicans-like-runoff-elections/” });:: short url [...]
#83
1. I don’t drink (or do drugs)
2. That was only the first time I had ever been on this website so it seems it might be easy to not quite have the hang of the order of the posts in this site.
3. Thanks for the welcome, not!
4. At least I had the courtesy to come back and apologize for my error. Much more than I bet you would do.
5. I find you nothing but rude! MR 83 !
#87 I have 3 children and I want them growing up in Houston County and have the option of enjoying Country Crossing or not…you people have keep our area down for years with help from a handfull of our own…thank the Good Lord those days are just about over…seems we’ve overcome without having to wait on another generation to die off…”choices”, yes indeed!!
[...] But “The Possum,” who often missed performances because of alcohol use, may have even outdone himself this week by recording an ad for Alabama Congressional Candidate Ronnie Gilley while the singer was obviously intoxicated. [...]
#91 Pure ignorance of the facts!!!
When you go to vote….IF you vote…..please do vote for Ronnie Gilley…….
you may have to use the ‘write-in’ option.
http://annistonotr.blogspot.com/2008/06/other-side-of-bamajam.html
Check out thi article about Bama Jam. People should know that there were not 218000 people, some people were counted 3 times in that number, and NOT everyone had a good time.
#93 Unbelievable! You let one man, that may have had a bit much to drink, while on a mini vacation, destroy your whole weekend at Bama Jam? All because he offered you friendship by offering you a beer and hamburger?
As I see it, since you are married, why did you accept his offer? You left yourself wide open for the assumption you were single! Why not say something like “I’d love too join you but first let me go get my husband”. Or, when you were ‘hit on’ why didn’t you leave instead of staying until your beer got warm? I got ya, a FREE BEER!
Now for the numbers, again you have no clue what you are talking about! There were 111,000 tickets sold. There was also several thousand tickets that were comp’ed (free) Some of which were 1 day, most were 3 day event tickets. The total number of people that passed through the gates was estimated due to the fact the people with the 3-day wrist band were NOT re-counted by scan. On Sat. alone it is quite possible nearly every person that had a wristband was in attendance.
They certainly packed the entire area! Also don’t forget, there were a lot of kids there that had no wristband since they got in free.
I wish there had been aerial view pictures taken on Sat. then NO ONE would question the numbers of people there.
If you were there Thurs. when it was announced 27,000
people had passed through the gates, you would have seen the comparison of how many was there Sat…27,000 was a mere fraction of the Sat. nite attendance.
#1 The man is very nearly 78 years old…..what do you think YOUR voice will sound like at that age?
Not to even mention the fact he is still performing!
Well over 50 years of entertaining! With several awards!
How many awards do YOU have?
George Jones can stay out of Coffee County! He and Gilley should move to Nashville. THe area would be better off. George Jones deserves..I say DESERVES…everything that he has received and continues to come his way. You can take the adulterous hick out of Nashville…but you get the idea. I hope to see the two of them behind bars VERY sonn.
I just Love too read all this crap! The funny thing is most of the comments we are reading have been written by people that’s not even old enough to vote.If you’ll read between the lines you can pick them out. You know Jay Love may be a lair but you know if he is he’ll fit right in with everyone else.Has Harri Ann been completly honest, I don’t think so.They have all told there fair share of lies.You know it’s kinda like the President election heck with these choices I just want to close my eyes and pick one at Random.The bottom line is RG should have stayed out of this, it has nothing and I mean nothing to do with him no more than it has to do with anyone else in Alabama.He loves attention and loves to stir *^%*.what would have happen if Elvis would have ran for President or just endorsed a President, He or the one he endorsed would have more than likely won because every fan would have rush to the polls to vote.He was one of the greatest singers that has ever recorded but he didn’t need to been in office.It will all be over soon and like someone said earlier if Harri wins RG will have saved the day but if she loses oh man ! I wonder what will happen to his little empire all of his investors are on the edge of their seats It’s my understanding some have already took there loses and got out do to the fact that they are some good decent people invested but think this is all wrong besides the fact they have not see any return on their monney.For the one (1) response I got on my earlier comment read it again I don’t think you got it.CC would be great no doubt it would bring alot of revenue into the area, but this is our home where we live and our kids we hope will stay, they may have diffrent opinions than you when they have kids and just don’t want them brought up around a possible gambling scene, but like you said it will be their choice.I say lets keep the gamimg out and just bring in good clean fun.Besides checking around your area in Houston County you are less than 100 miles of the same type of venue (gaming).You know I love to go to Disney World, Six Flags, even Branson & Nashville, but wouldn’t want them in my back yard, you know that when you visit one of these places you always say man this is great we’ll have to come back but I wouldn’t want to live here !
Just my thoughts no harm intended !
Choices
Choices….By your own admission you basically defeated your own argument. Your rhetoric is nothing more than hogwash. You say you want good clean fun on one hand, then you say that Disney,Six Flags are nice but you wouldn’t want them in your backyard. You are obviously hung up on the gambling aspect so much, that it has clouded your judgement. You mention the word “choices” but yet you are basically saying you don’t want others to have their right to choose. That is what make this country so great. The freedom to choose. No one will force you to go, contribute or participate if you do not want to.
You people don’t get it. This is a free Country. If you don’t want to play Bingo, don’t go! I will be there!
I am casting my vote and after doing research I am voting tomorrow for Harri Anne Smith! In my opinion she will be the best to represent Alabama.
I support Country Crossing!
(98) There was never and argument nor was there support for either gambling or any of the canidates.I don’t even live in your State I could really care less I you want to know the truth I just joined in after I heard that terriable ad with GJ and this ad was paid for by RG.This man is not even running for anything, nothing, zip.I have done a little research on the internet on RG and looks like he has bought up land in your area mainly in the Enterprise Coffee County Area, what I have read the land has not even been purchased in the Houston county for CC.Heard that they might be some property line issues, anyway fine let them built it let them do what they want there I don’t care might even drive over myself sometime and check it out take some of the shows or maybe play bingo but Sometimes you have to look beyond the gold and glitter to see what kind of effects it will have down the road.I’m not sure how close to this CC you live but you can get ready for your property value to go up if your in the area. You say That’s great my property value just increased 40% this year.Well I hate to break it to you but if your value goes up so does your tax so do you really get a 40% increase.Well lets see I’ll just sell since my property & tax went up.Well you want be the only one thinking that so will everyone else, so your place is for sale, the place next door is for sale and so on.I’m sure you get the idea I don’t care if you want it or not like you said it’s your choice hope you get what you want, just don’t overlook all the issues that will follow.My question would be if I lived in the area would be. Do I like where I live now am I happy here can I live without all this? Either way I hope you get what you want just be careful what you ask for sometimes it’s not what it seems.
Best of luck Tomorrow !
Choices