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		<title>By: SamfordDem</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/07/01/rasmussen-reports-alabama-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-28275</link>
		<dc:creator>SamfordDem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trvld, I think you&#039;re correct.  I do however think Obama can win Virginia and North Carolina and put Georgia and Mississippi in play.  Florida will be in play too, but that&#039;s not really part of the South as I understand it.  As I said earlier, increased black and youth turnout + low evangelical turnout will make things much closer in Alabama than most expect, BUT I think the biggest hurdle for Obama will be Jim Folsom Dems in the Appalachian region of the state, especially AL 4.  If Obama can find a way to get some traction with the voters of that district (if he could pull 35% of the vote in that district, he&#039;d be doing pretty well), he could potentially win the state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trvld, I think you&#8217;re correct.  I do however think Obama can win Virginia and North Carolina and put Georgia and Mississippi in play.  Florida will be in play too, but that&#8217;s not really part of the South as I understand it.  As I said earlier, increased black and youth turnout + low evangelical turnout will make things much closer in Alabama than most expect, BUT I think the biggest hurdle for Obama will be Jim Folsom Dems in the Appalachian region of the state, especially AL 4.  If Obama can find a way to get some traction with the voters of that district (if he could pull 35% of the vote in that district, he&#8217;d be doing pretty well), he could potentially win the state.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do note a consistent theme amongst the comments here: The Repubs feel a lot more comfortable attacking and attempting to ridicule Sen. Obama than they do defending their choice of Sen. McCain.  The truth is that Sen. McCain has no more or less &quot;substance&quot; to his positions than does Sen. Obama. That is the nature of our political process as both candidates attempt to appeal to the middle. Those attacking Obama for lacking substance would never have considered voting for him in the first place. Personally, all I really need to know about Sen. McCain&#039;s &quot;substance&quot; is that he intends for our brave soldiers to stay in Iraq indefinitely with no exit strategy and no real plan for &quot;winning&quot; the war, and that his only plans for the economic holes created by eight years of failed Bush policies is to keep digging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do note a consistent theme amongst the comments here: The Repubs feel a lot more comfortable attacking and attempting to ridicule Sen. Obama than they do defending their choice of Sen. McCain.  The truth is that Sen. McCain has no more or less &#8220;substance&#8221; to his positions than does Sen. Obama. That is the nature of our political process as both candidates attempt to appeal to the middle. Those attacking Obama for lacking substance would never have considered voting for him in the first place. Personally, all I really need to know about Sen. McCain&#8217;s &#8220;substance&#8221; is that he intends for our brave soldiers to stay in Iraq indefinitely with no exit strategy and no real plan for &#8220;winning&#8221; the war, and that his only plans for the economic holes created by eight years of failed Bush policies is to keep digging.</p>
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		<title>By: Trvld</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/07/01/rasmussen-reports-alabama-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-28205</link>
		<dc:creator>Trvld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Quite a stir up on this post.  The fact is that if you like Obama, it&#039;s exactly because his message is change and hope.  This, however, leaves critics to point that he offers no substance.  Now, these people only do so because they have already chosen McCain.  If they were honest with themselves, they would look at the multiple 180s and 360s Sen. McCain has made in trying to gain the nomination and turn on the evangelical turnout machine, which may be his only hope for election.

Here are the facts.  Independents and crossover votes will be the determinants in this election.  Youth turnout will be larger, but probably not significant enough to turn the vote.  Same goes for black turnout, which, though large, will unlikely overcome the majority white and typically conservative votes in the Southern states necessary to be effective in the Electoral College.  All that said, the news pundits and Republican operatives have been very open about the fact that they don&#039;t have the resources of Obama, don&#039;t understand which voters he may appeal to, and don&#039;t have the campaign infrastructure he has built.  This doesn&#039;t spell victory in the real world of elections.

Most telling, a tried and true, small government big-L, self-confessed Libertarian has told me that he is seriously considering Obama.  My prediction, for what it&#039;s worth, Obama wins the popular vote by 10%.  This flies in the face of all the political insiders I know telling me that race will likely prohibit an Obama victory.  If James Fields can win in Cullman, why couldn&#039;t Obama win in the US? (And don&#039;t throw the &quot;experience&quot; talking point at this statement.  We&#039;ve had multiple Republican Presidents, most of whom I voted for based on their &quot;experience,&quot; only to see them fail us miserably.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Quite a stir up on this post.  The fact is that if you like Obama, it&#8217;s exactly because his message is change and hope.  This, however, leaves critics to point that he offers no substance.  Now, these people only do so because they have already chosen McCain.  If they were honest with themselves, they would look at the multiple 180s and 360s Sen. McCain has made in trying to gain the nomination and turn on the evangelical turnout machine, which may be his only hope for election.</p>
<p>Here are the facts.  Independents and crossover votes will be the determinants in this election.  Youth turnout will be larger, but probably not significant enough to turn the vote.  Same goes for black turnout, which, though large, will unlikely overcome the majority white and typically conservative votes in the Southern states necessary to be effective in the Electoral College.  All that said, the news pundits and Republican operatives have been very open about the fact that they don&#8217;t have the resources of Obama, don&#8217;t understand which voters he may appeal to, and don&#8217;t have the campaign infrastructure he has built.  This doesn&#8217;t spell victory in the real world of elections.</p>
<p>Most telling, a tried and true, small government big-L, self-confessed Libertarian has told me that he is seriously considering Obama.  My prediction, for what it&#8217;s worth, Obama wins the popular vote by 10%.  This flies in the face of all the political insiders I know telling me that race will likely prohibit an Obama victory.  If James Fields can win in Cullman, why couldn&#8217;t Obama win in the US? (And don&#8217;t throw the &#8220;experience&#8221; talking point at this statement.  We&#8217;ve had multiple Republican Presidents, most of whom I voted for based on their &#8220;experience,&#8221; only to see them fail us miserably.)</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-07-02 &#124; Daily Dixie</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2008-07-02 &#124; Daily Dixie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bhmhomeboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>bhmhomeboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by still need a consistent name on here, 
you shouldn&#039;t judge a post by it&#039;s frequency or it&#039;s forum name.  I try not to pass judgement on my fellow human beings, nor jump to conclusions about their individual circumstances, I certainly don&#039;t try and demean anyone because I disagree with their OPINION.
In the real world in which I operate, tolerant people can agree to disagree without being disagreeable.  Good luck coming up with that consistant name on here and no need to apologize to for typing errors.  We all make mistakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by still need a consistent name on here,<br />
you shouldn&#8217;t judge a post by it&#8217;s frequency or it&#8217;s forum name.  I try not to pass judgement on my fellow human beings, nor jump to conclusions about their individual circumstances, I certainly don&#8217;t try and demean anyone because I disagree with their OPINION.<br />
In the real world in which I operate, tolerant people can agree to disagree without being disagreeable.  Good luck coming up with that consistant name on here and no need to apologize to for typing errors.  We all make mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: still need a consistent name on here</title>
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		<dc:creator>still need a consistent name on here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>through to throw
bis to bid

sorry,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>through to throw<br />
bis to bid</p>
<p>sorry,</p>
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		<title>By: still need a consistent name on here</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/07/01/rasmussen-reports-alabama-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-28172</link>
		<dc:creator>still need a consistent name on here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer not to judge candidates by the color of their skin nor the content of their character (though if I did Obama might be hurt in the later significantly)I prefer to judge them based on the content of their policy.  At this point in the campaign process all I know about Obama&#039;s policy is that he will promise anything to anyone.  His campaign is roughly based around the same campaign principles as a middle school student running for Student Government.  Promise no more homework, longer recess, and through in a few witty cracks and some cheap rhetoric tricks and you have the thing in the bag.

Until Obama provides some meat and potatoes for these lavish policies he is proposing, I will put him in the same category as LaLa from your hometown bhamhomeboy, and his proposals in the same category as Birmingham&#039;s bis for the Olympics.

I will once again post an exert from an earlier post- &quot;A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury&quot; Alexander Tyler 1778

Surely the fad that is this campaign at the moment will fade and people will want more information about this two faced candidate and his promises

Bhmhomeboy, Judging both by your name and frequency of posting, I come to the conclusion that you, like samfordem, are not in the working world and thus might not understand the rules under which it operates.  In the real world empty rhetoric is not worth the air it takes to speak it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer not to judge candidates by the color of their skin nor the content of their character (though if I did Obama might be hurt in the later significantly)I prefer to judge them based on the content of their policy.  At this point in the campaign process all I know about Obama&#8217;s policy is that he will promise anything to anyone.  His campaign is roughly based around the same campaign principles as a middle school student running for Student Government.  Promise no more homework, longer recess, and through in a few witty cracks and some cheap rhetoric tricks and you have the thing in the bag.</p>
<p>Until Obama provides some meat and potatoes for these lavish policies he is proposing, I will put him in the same category as LaLa from your hometown bhamhomeboy, and his proposals in the same category as Birmingham&#8217;s bis for the Olympics.</p>
<p>I will once again post an exert from an earlier post- &#8220;A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury&#8221; Alexander Tyler 1778</p>
<p>Surely the fad that is this campaign at the moment will fade and people will want more information about this two faced candidate and his promises</p>
<p>Bhmhomeboy, Judging both by your name and frequency of posting, I come to the conclusion that you, like samfordem, are not in the working world and thus might not understand the rules under which it operates.  In the real world empty rhetoric is not worth the air it takes to speak it.</p>
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		<title>By: SamfordDem</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/07/01/rasmussen-reports-alabama-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-28170</link>
		<dc:creator>SamfordDem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This election IS different.  Kerry substantially increased both turnout and the margin of victory for Democrats among young people in 2004.  Obviously, it was not enough for Kerry to overcome the huge increase in evangelical turnout that came with it.  Obama will yet again increase both turnout and the Democratic margin of victory among that age group, the question will be how much.  I simply cannot see evangelical turnout for McCain even coming close to that for Bush right now.  

Obama has broken through into the world of facebook and myspace and everything else that young people are interested in.  He&#039;s been able to connect with them in a way no candidate has the past twenty years.  They will turn out higher numbers for Obama than any election in modern history; the same will be true for African-Americans.  

If you want to argue that won&#039;t be enough for him to win the general, there&#039;s an argument to be made.  But to discount the fact that he defeated the strongest non-incumbent primary candidate in modern American history (in terms of endorsements, money, organization, and polling) largely because of increased turnout among blacks and young people, you are crazy.  Those same people will vote for him in the general and they will bring plenty of friends, none of whom has a landline.  Polls are going to be more inaccurate than usual this election cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This election IS different.  Kerry substantially increased both turnout and the margin of victory for Democrats among young people in 2004.  Obviously, it was not enough for Kerry to overcome the huge increase in evangelical turnout that came with it.  Obama will yet again increase both turnout and the Democratic margin of victory among that age group, the question will be how much.  I simply cannot see evangelical turnout for McCain even coming close to that for Bush right now.  </p>
<p>Obama has broken through into the world of facebook and myspace and everything else that young people are interested in.  He&#8217;s been able to connect with them in a way no candidate has the past twenty years.  They will turn out higher numbers for Obama than any election in modern history; the same will be true for African-Americans.  </p>
<p>If you want to argue that won&#8217;t be enough for him to win the general, there&#8217;s an argument to be made.  But to discount the fact that he defeated the strongest non-incumbent primary candidate in modern American history (in terms of endorsements, money, organization, and polling) largely because of increased turnout among blacks and young people, you are crazy.  Those same people will vote for him in the general and they will bring plenty of friends, none of whom has a landline.  Polls are going to be more inaccurate than usual this election cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are the only one who spoke of race - but would expect nothing less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are the only one who spoke of race &#8211; but would expect nothing less.</p>
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		<title>By: bhmhomeboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>bhmhomeboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous#23,
The Bush/Cheney &quot;rhetoric&quot; is revelant, because it&#039;s what got us to &quot;here and now&quot;.  There is plenty of substance behinds Obama&#039;s words.  

Speaking of great speeches and substance:

&quot;I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character&quot;. ~Martin Luther King, Jr.

Try judging Barack Obama by the content of his character, not by the color of his skin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous#23,<br />
The Bush/Cheney &#8220;rhetoric&#8221; is revelant, because it&#8217;s what got us to &#8220;here and now&#8221;.  There is plenty of substance behinds Obama&#8217;s words.  </p>
<p>Speaking of great speeches and substance:</p>
<p>&#8220;I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character&#8221;. ~Martin Luther King, Jr.</p>
<p>Try judging Barack Obama by the content of his character, not by the color of his skin.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guess you don&#039;t think any of the people you mentioned are american.  real classy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guess you don&#8217;t think any of the people you mentioned are american.  real classy.</p>
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		<title>By: bhmhomeboy</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/07/01/rasmussen-reports-alabama-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-28162</link>
		<dc:creator>bhmhomeboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On his first day in office President Obama will roll back the Bush tax cuts on the RICH.  This action will NOT &quot;raise taxes&quot; on the poor and the middle class.

Bush&#039;s tax cut was not really a tax cut, it was a tax shift from the rich (who could afford to pay) to the middle class.

Bush paid for his tax cut for the rich by raiding the surplus. 

Bush is borrowing  and spending money to pay for all war all the time.

Rolling back the tax cut for Cheney, Kerry, Bush, Kennedy, Clinton, Gates, Oprah, and all the other rich and famous will be doing the right thing for all Americans, not just Democrats.  

Under Bush&#039;s tax cut the rich got richer and the rest got the shaft, regardless of party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On his first day in office President Obama will roll back the Bush tax cuts on the RICH.  This action will NOT &#8220;raise taxes&#8221; on the poor and the middle class.</p>
<p>Bush&#8217;s tax cut was not really a tax cut, it was a tax shift from the rich (who could afford to pay) to the middle class.</p>
<p>Bush paid for his tax cut for the rich by raiding the surplus. </p>
<p>Bush is borrowing  and spending money to pay for all war all the time.</p>
<p>Rolling back the tax cut for Cheney, Kerry, Bush, Kennedy, Clinton, Gates, Oprah, and all the other rich and famous will be doing the right thing for all Americans, not just Democrats.  </p>
<p>Under Bush&#8217;s tax cut the rich got richer and the rest got the shaft, regardless of party.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>23, don&#039;t think he will do the right thing for ALL of the people - day one in office, obama will roll back bush tax cuts, and raising taxes is not &quot;doing the right thing&quot; - unless you&#039;re a democrat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>23, don&#8217;t think he will do the right thing for ALL of the people &#8211; day one in office, obama will roll back bush tax cuts, and raising taxes is not &#8220;doing the right thing&#8221; &#8211; unless you&#8217;re a democrat.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you have zero common sense if you believe we can trust what the man says - the bush cheney rhetoric is old and has no relevance.  it is relevant that we are in the here and now with this idea machine that everyone blindly trusts and if you are going to broadly say that &quot;we&quot; can trust, then you better back it up.  since you can&#039;t back it up, you should limit your comments to &quot;maybe i&#039;m the only idiot who believes what ever plan he has even though there is no substance behind the words&quot; just don&#039;t lump the rest of us in with you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you have zero common sense if you believe we can trust what the man says &#8211; the bush cheney rhetoric is old and has no relevance.  it is relevant that we are in the here and now with this idea machine that everyone blindly trusts and if you are going to broadly say that &#8220;we&#8221; can trust, then you better back it up.  since you can&#8217;t back it up, you should limit your comments to &#8220;maybe i&#8217;m the only idiot who believes what ever plan he has even though there is no substance behind the words&#8221; just don&#8217;t lump the rest of us in with you</p>
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		<title>By: bhmhomeboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>bhmhomeboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of giving &quot;good speeches&quot;

I recall Bush giving some &quot;good speeches&quot; they were called called State of the Union Addresses.  In one SOTU he said &quot;Iraq had Nukes from Niger&quot;, remember?

Candidates and politicians give speeches.  That is why they hire &quot;speech writers&quot; it&#039;s call &quot;communicating&quot;,Ronald Regan was called &quot;The Great Communicator&quot;, remember?.  Don&#039;t hate on Obama because he is an effective communicator.  

I trust Obama not to lie us into a war.  I trust Obama to do the right thing for all of the people not some of the people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of giving &#8220;good speeches&#8221;</p>
<p>I recall Bush giving some &#8220;good speeches&#8221; they were called called State of the Union Addresses.  In one SOTU he said &#8220;Iraq had Nukes from Niger&#8221;, remember?</p>
<p>Candidates and politicians give speeches.  That is why they hire &#8220;speech writers&#8221; it&#8217;s call &#8220;communicating&#8221;,Ronald Regan was called &#8220;The Great Communicator&#8221;, remember?.  Don&#8217;t hate on Obama because he is an effective communicator.  </p>
<p>I trust Obama not to lie us into a war.  I trust Obama to do the right thing for all of the people not some of the people.</p>
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