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AL-02: Latest TV Ads for GOP Primary Run-off Posted by Danny, on June 24th, 2008, at 4:51 pmThought you might like to see the latest TV ads for the GOP primary run-off in the 2nd Congressional District. Here’s the latest Harri Anne Smith ad in .wmv format. (Came out last night, I think.) Here’s the latest Jay Love ad in .mov format. (Came out today.) No time now for anything other than these links. Perhaps later I can see about making them more user-friendly. 64 comments to AL-02: Latest TV Ads for GOP Primary Run-off |
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Wow! I guess they are not on the Love Train or the Love Boat either!
HEY MORON YOU JUST RAN A NEGATIVE AD? What a complete and total idiot. People say that Harri Anne isn’t that bright, this moron just said “Harri Anne smith is running negative attacks” and then goes on to attack her. What kind of idiot do you think the people are? COME ON!!!!!
Wow, Jay great spin too bad the cell phone tax was just transferring the tax from land lines to cell phones so older people would not have to pay all the money. Also, the “property tax hike” simply made property taxes consistant in every county therefore it lessened the burden off the areas who were paying more. It cut taxes for some counties, raised it for others, and some stayed nearly the same. Also, do not complain about negative ads if your running one. Even still Jay’s commercial does not answer Amendment 1. Thats the biggest tax increase ever. His commercial at best says shes almost as bad as me???
she started it – he had to reply. i don’t blame him. and amend 1 was the biggest tax increase ever? ummmm….it never passed. wake up.
Jay voted to let the people vote. Is that a vote for taxes?? Most of the right wing conservative extemists (nuts) favor the iniative and referendum right. Isn’t that what Jay did? gave the people that would pay the tax an opportunity to vote?? How many statewide legislative tax issues have the taxpayers of this state been give the opportunity to vote on? Only one and they (we) voted it down. Just like the lottery it failed so it did not become a law. Again, I do not know how Jay voted at the polls but I would be willing to bet he voted no. That ad is a lie. It is a slick lie but in the end if it is not the whole truth it is a lie. Those who are saying Jay voted for the largest tax increase are also liars unless they can prove how he voted at the polls.
I am sure Bright is loving every minute of this. If the R’s don’t watch out with the negative ads that create a lot of emotion in a campaign, they are going to get their tails kicked again. Wait and see…..
Need help massaging these files into something else, let me know.
I think I hear a pig squeeeeeling
At #5 – there is not one lie in Harri Anne’s ad – not one. Every point is sourced.
There are a LOT of lies in Jay Love’s ads, however, beginning with the lie that HE passed the tax cuts that were actually passed by John Knight. That one is also provable in black and white.
Jay Love is a liar. Period. End of sentence.
Post 8 – you don’t have a clue what you are speaking of. Throwing out the word liar enough times….doesn’t make it so. Bright is indeed loving this….thanks Senator Smith.
If you are going to throw it around, be careful that it does not come back to bite you in the ass.
This from last weekend’s Montgomery Advertiser
June 14, 2008
RAVE: For the Alabama Legislature, believe it or not. This editorial page has been highly critical of the Legislature’s failures this year, but we must give lawmakers credit for adopting legislation to help small businesses and their employees afford the cost of health insurance.
The legislation was pushed unsuccessfully for several years by Gov. Bob Riley and Rep. Jay Love, but to their credit they never gave up on it.
It allows business owners with fewer than 25 employees to deduct 150 percent of the amount they pay for employee health insurance premiums from their state income taxes. It also allows employees of small businesses earning $50,000 or less annually to deduct 150 percent of what they pay for health insurance from their state income taxes.
We applaud Riley, Love, the business lobbying groups who pushed hard for this bill, and all legislators who voted for it.
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#11, John Knight called Jay Love a liar on the floor of the Alabama House – and it has NOTHING to do with the bill you cite (which was NOT passed by Jay either – that one was Richard Lindsey’s so just add more lies to Jay’s immense tally) . . .
The lie in Jay’s ads were when he took credit for “the first tax cuts in 70 years” . . .those were sponsored by John Knight and as Kinght pointedly remarked to Jay on the floor of the Alabama House ” . . .you (Love) had nothing to do with that.”
I posted #8, and there is NOT ONE LIE in it. Danny, I think if someone wants to call someone a liar on this board they should specify the untruth. I specified Jay Love’s lies (taking credit for bills he did not pass, etc.) I want someone to tell me what in post #8 is not true, because it is all true. I am very careful about that. And I resent being calle d aliar when I post facts and cite sources.
I guess we can SEE that Jack Campbell is BACK on the blogs calling Jay Love a LIAR!! Welcome BACK, Jack. Sorry you are UNEMPLOYED!
No one actually has to call Jay a liar. The facts scream that out for everyone to hear.
The Smith Campaign’s Ad:
Aesthetically terrible! The transitions are horrible and hinder the message that should be getting across to the voters. Again, more terrible work by Chris Brown-here to ruin another campaign. I think a high school government class could produce a better ad than this one.
Are you not able to read? Did you see the Advertiser Editorial that was posted? You can split hairs if you want, but everyone from Bob Riley to the Montgomery Advertiser knows Jay Love has been sponsoring and passing tax cuts for years. John Knight is not the best source in my view. Was Smith at the bill signings for the Income Tax Cut or the Business tax cut? Do not believe she was there. She was probably trying to figure out how much more she owes in property taxes after she raised them on most of the counties in the 2nd District.
i tell you what though, if that big ole corn fed boy in harri anne’s ad is at the polls, i’m voting the way he tells me – kid has been in a brawl or 2
I am bipolar please dont believe anything i say
Where did Harri Anne find the people she used in her ad? Were they in ringside seats at her local wrestling match? The commercial should have Dueling Banjos playing in the background.
Again
This from last weekend’s Montgomery Advertiser (see last line)
June 14, 2008
RAVE: For the Alabama Legislature, believe it or not. This editorial page has been highly critical of the Legislature’s failures this year, but we must give lawmakers credit for adopting legislation to help small businesses and their employees afford the cost of health insurance.
The legislation was pushed unsuccessfully for several years by Gov. Bob Riley and Rep. Jay Love, but to their credit they never gave up on it.
It allows business owners with fewer than 25 employees to deduct 150 percent of the amount they pay for employee health insurance premiums from their state income taxes. It also allows employees of small businesses earning $50,000 or less annually to deduct 150 percent of what they pay for health insurance from their state income taxes.
We applaud Riley, Love, the business lobbying groups who pushed hard for this bill, and all legislators who voted for it.
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Here you go, embed away.
Harri Anne Smith’s ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk14UFqtKWM
Jay Love’s ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHATQGPMrlM
At #17: according to the official records of the Alabama legislature – freely avaialable to everyone at the state’s official website, Jay Love has passed precisely one bill during his 6 years as a legislator: a bill to give taxpayer money to retired state employees.
That is a fact.
The Montgomery Advertiser appears to be shilling for Love. Nerwspapaers do that sometimes. That doesn’t change cold hard facts.
In a truly bizarre statement, you say “Love has been sponsoring and passing tax cut legislation for years.” Say what????? That comment is not only utterly incorrect, but truly insane.
The record clearly shows Jay Love has never – repeat: never – sponsored and passed a single tax cut. He has sponsored and passed one – repeat: one – bill in his legislative career. And that bill was to give away taxpayer money to state employee union members, his biggest suppoprters.
I gave you facts, #17. You cite none. Newspaper editorials are – by definition – opinion. Not facts.
I’ll do this #17. I will issue you a challenge. I am going to give you an opportunity to cite – by bill number – a SINGLE tax cut bill actualy SPONSORED AND PASSED by Jay Love. He must be either the sponsor or cosponsor of the tax cut bill.
You cannot do it because it has never happened. We both know that.
Jay Love sponsored the Governor’s Small Business Tax Cut this year and he sponsored the Governor’s Income Tax Cut in 2006.
Smith voted to raise property taxes on most of the 2nd Congressional District. Tens of millions of dollars that she supported in new taxes – new property taxes – on the 2nd CD. Shame on Senator Smith, she should apologize to voters.
HarriAnne & Co, stop lying about Jay Love’s record. He cut taxes, he did not raise them. Smith has cost families in the 2nd so much in higher taxes and they know it.
#25 – you cited no bill number sponsored or cosponsored by Jay Love. You have failed my challenge, so don’t you DARE call me a liar.
Again – facts are facts. There is no record at all of Jay Love ever sponsoring and passing a single tax cut. That FACT remains. If you insist he has “sponsored and passed tax cuts” YOU are LYING.
My post is the truth. You cannot say it isn’t. I can prove my facts – you cannot.
You have a lot of nerve. And zero class.
Don’t you dare call me a liar when you can’t meet my chasllenge.
Danny – I resent people calling me a liar when I have cited my facts and proven my points. I have posted nothing but fact on this matter. Can you remove the insulting handles above?
Mr. Get Real Liar – stop lying about Jay Love’s record. You need to be working on spinning Smith’s high taxes record. A record of raising taxes on retailers, consumers, home owners and such.
Jay Love sponsored tax cuts on Alabama families for years and years. Smith raised taxes on Alabama families year after year. She should apologize and you should apologize for lying.
For #25: just for the record, official state records for 2006 and 2008- the years you lamely try to claim Jay Love “sponsored and passed” tax cuts – show that Jay Love did not pass any bills for those years. So he did not “sponsor and pass” any “tax cuts” those years. There is still no record of Jay Love “sponsoring and passing” anything other than a single bill – a lump sum payout of taxpayer money to state employee union retirees.
I still challenge anyone to show me a single other bill passed by Jay Love. Cite the bill number and that it shows Love as the sponsor or cosponsor. Those are the terms of the challenge.
Obviously I know that this challenge cannot be met as Love has never sponsored and passed a tax cut. Jay’s people above know this too. But they keep right on lying.
I am not going to stop holding your feet to the fire on this. Either you produce an actual record of a tax cut SPONSORED AND PASSED by Jay Love or be man enough to admit he hasn’t.
I won’t hold my breath. You don’t have the character.
#28 – do not dare call me a liar unless you can show me what I have posted that is not true.
How dare you. My posts are true. I would not post them unless I knew them to be true.
Obviously you have a different standard.
You owe me an apology.
Don’t call me a liar again without showing me what you claim is not true in my posts. You can’t do that.
Stop lying “Get Real”. Just as when someone posted here not to long ago and said that Jay Love’s first nine votes were to increase taxes – that was also a lie.
Here is the Editorial from last week’s Montgomery Advertiser in case you missed it above.
This from last weekend’s Montgomery Advertiser (see last line)
June 14, 2008
RAVE: For the Alabama Legislature, believe it or not. This editorial page has been highly critical of the Legislature’s failures this year, but we must give lawmakers credit for adopting legislation to help small businesses and their employees afford the cost of health insurance.
The legislation was pushed unsuccessfully for several years by Gov. Bob Riley and Rep. Jay Love, but to their credit they never gave up on it.
It allows business owners with fewer than 25 employees to deduct 150 percent of the amount they pay for employee health insurance premiums from their state income taxes. It also allows employees of small businesses earning $50,000 or less annually to deduct 150 percent of what they pay for health insurance from their state income taxes.
We applaud Riley, Love, the business lobbying groups who pushed hard for this bill, and all legislators who voted for it.
You have yet to cite a single tax cut bill “sponsored and passed” by Jay Love. That is because he has NEVER sponsored and passed a tax cut and YOU KNOW IT.
You are currently 0-for-alltime at meeting my challenge, by the way. I’m betting you will never get it done. It’s a very safe bet because both you and I know Jay has never passed a tax cut . . .
YOU are doing all the lying. Unless you can show me a single untruth in any of my posts – which you have been repeatedly asked to do and you have failed to do – STOP calling me a liar.
Stop calling me a liar.
You have no class.
Oh and at #31 – here is some truth for you: the bill mentioned in the editorial was SPONSORED and PASSED by Richard lindsey – not Jay Love. Interested parties can find this out by visiting the official state website and viewing the official records of the Alabama legislature.
For the record, Jay Love’s bill died. He was not even a cosponsor of the bill that passed giving tax relief to a few small businesses – that was Richard Lindsey who accomplished that.
I always thought it was unchristian to take credit for someone else’s accomplishments . . .
It should also be noted that the Montgomery Advertiser suppports Jay love in the electon. Their editorial page is not a “fact source . . .” It is, by definition, OPINION. And even they do not claim Jay love has “sponsored and passed tax cuts.”
Becuase that claim is untrue.
You people are showing you have no knowledge of how the government works. A minority party will never pass a tax cut, ever. They push and fight for it, then once the deal is reached where it will be passed a member of the majority party gets credit. Jay love submitted HB144 (the small business tax cut)at the beginning of the session, and the session before, and the session before. It was not until business and the black caucus struck a deal to pass the tax cut in conjunction with the add back bill(hb350) that Lindsey submitted his bill for consideration. Get beyond a 6th grade civics class understanding of the legislature before you begin posting
#34 they understand that, but choose to play footsy with the truth. When Bob Riley thanked Jay Love for leading the charge on income tax cuts during the State of the State, when editorials across the state praised Jay Love for passing tax cuts, when business groups and others praised Jay Love for leading the charge and sponsoring small business tax cuts, when Jay Love (not Smith or “Get Real”) was standing with the Governor when he signed the aforementioned tax cuts – those are all facts, not lies. Get Real needs to GET REAL! Come on now, where is the LOVE?
Smith is done not only in this race but in the senate if she hopes to stay there.
You guys are still 0-for-forever on backing up your claim – explicitly made in post #17 – that Jay Love had “sponsored and passed tx cuts.” That is a direct quote. And it is provably untrue.
Every untrue statement in this thread has been made by YOU. I know this because I double-checked my facts and sources befoire posting. And I have repeatedly ciyed sources. Your only citation has been a newspaer opinion piece that does NOT state that Love ever sponsored and passed any tax cuts.
You still have not pointed out ANY untruths in my posts, but you still call me a “liar.”
That is classless. And when you have failed repeatedly to answer my explicit challenge to show any lies in my posts, it is gutless as well.
Jay is running a campaign whose central theme is untrue. You cannot spin that away. You cannot create a bodygueard of lies to protect a central lie. At some point this will collapse around Jay love -whether it is in this runoff or in the fall when John Anzalone opens up on Jay.
Don’t call me a liar when you and I both know I have posted facts. It is cowardly and gutless to do that.
#35 I have a new challenge for you-since ytou will never be able to meet the other one. You state “editorials across the state praised Jay Love for PASSING tax cuts.” That is a direct quote from you – and it is untrue.
I want you to cite a single editorial in a state newspaper where they cited Love for PASSING TAX CUTS. There isn’t any – he has never PASSED a tax cut. No paper would say that. Don’t post the Advertiser piece again – it clearly does NOT state that Love passed anything.
You claim NEWSPAPERS – PLURAL have “praised Love” for “PASSING tax cuts.” Let’s see them. I know – and you know – there aren’t any such editorials.
See, you just posted an untruth – a lie. I have not done that. You just did.
You guys put flat-out. made-up-out-of-whole-cloth lies on here, then call my fact-based posts “lies.” You are beneath contempt.
after reading all of get real’s posts, i’m ready for a “your momma” or a “i know you are but what am i” to come out…are you really a 5th grader on mommy’s computer?
Get Real makes me laugh. I am busy calling people in the 2nd CD right now telling them about Jay Love’s tax cuts. If I get some time later today, I will post some more editorials. Getting great response from people about the tax cuts on income taxes and small businesses that he sponsored.
You won’t be posting any editorials where people “praised Jay Love for passing tax cuts” as you claim above. That will not happen as there are none. You haven’t been able to respond to either of my challenges – because you can’t.
You are full of it – just like Jay. And that message will get out.
Ok fellows lets be clear. Jay Love regardless of any tax legislation he may have liked, pushed, etc. Has never sponsored the bill, period. Jay Love is a blatant liar. Someone answer his AEA contribution from Paul Hubbert (his mortal enemy?), explain amendment 1 and how he voted for each tax seperately, and explain his actions against Bob McKee if he is such a christian. Please put your heads together and respond for Jay. He is a blatant liar who is being exposed. Jay can spend all day in Washington today, its just making people angry.
How about them $10,000 that Smith took from AEA? Lets talk about that one first.
For the record, I have also posted “Get Real is a Liar” and “#8 is a Liar.”
People are upset about Jay Love spending time with other conservatives who fight the libs and cut taxes? They are MORE upset about Smith raising property taxes on homeowners. Why did she do that? I pay enough in taxes already.
#43 – the big difference here is that Smith isn’t lying to people every day about their support and their record. I would not advance the idea that Smith never took AEA money – I don’t think anyone has. But she hasn’t been blatantly lying about it and claiming the unions are “out to get her” as Love – whose biggest donors are public sector unions (see FCPA reports and other webistes for proof) -zanily claimed in a radio spot.
That is the issue here: Jay does not tell the truth.
IF Smith uses that issue – a big one – she can win. If she doesn’t, you can bet Bright will use it against Jay in November.
You just can’t scream what a Christian you are and then not tell the truth. Voters hate that and it is a huge turnoff. So far, Jay has gotten a free pass on his fibs. But Bright will not let that continue.
The lying is just too blatant. Anzalone will not miss that opportunity. Jay will eventually be called on this. It would be better if it happened now.
By the way – speaking of who Jay spends his time with: in 2002 he spent a whole lot of time with union boss Mac MacArthur of the Government Worker’s Union. They were over at State Employee Union HQ plotting campaign strategy to knock off real Republican conservative Bob McKee with union money -and not coincedentally a dishonest ad campaign that told a blatant untruth about McKee supporting a legislative pension plan (this was an out-and-out lie put out on TV on election eve). So if you are implying that you can tell a lot about a politician by their associates you are correct. And when Jay ran against McKee his associates were all liberal union democrats . . .
got it. ok, great tv ad. put that up
I have a point here for everyone to ponder:
When Jay Love first went up on TV with ads, the main thrust of his entire campaign has been to claim responsibility for tax cuts – tax cuts that he did not sponsor and pass and about which there is, without question, much reason to believe that he had little or nothing to do with.
Here is the point: when the one thing a candidate cites as a reason to send him to congress is not even an actual personal accomplishment, doesn’t that make you wonder if he has ANY actual accomplishments? If he had any REAL accomplishments, wouldn’t those REAL indisputable accomplishments be the focus of his campaign?
Dear Get real…..YAWN…..
I would also submit that there is a semantics problem on this board. I don’t think we understand each other because we define things differently.
As an example, in my world a “lie” is something that is untrue. If something is fact-based – such as the fact that Jay Love has never sponsored and passed a tax cut – then it, by definition, cannot be a lie.
In the world of Jay Love, hovever, a “lie” is anything that casts a bad light on Jay. Truth is divorced from Love’s concept of a “lie.” So if something is factual, it could still be a “lie” in Jay’s world.
I remember a regime that had a similar idea of what a “lie” was to Jay’s. They published a newpaper they called “Truth” . . .or, as it was called in the native language, “Pravda” . . .