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	<title>Comments on: On Locking and Unlocking House Machines</title>
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		<title>by: publius</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/04/28/on-locking-and-unlocking-house-machines/#comment-23537</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>While Hinshaw has been publicly castigated for behavior that should be expected from him as a Hubbert devotee, Jack Williams has escaped calumny. The republican party, if it has any principles to back up its rhetoric, should publicly castigate Jack Williams and investigate his relationship with Randy Brinson (Abramoff $$)for setting the stage (ie providing Hubbert and Hinshaw a green light to bottom feed). Republicans should be outraged at this slight of hand exchequeing by old janus faced Williams. Jack Williams is a disgrace to the republican party, but a rising star to Brinson &#38; Hubbert. I call on Brett Blackledge to put pen to paper and track Jack Williams PAC money for the next year. AEA can launder money like a columbian drug lord, but no lie can live forever. The truth will out and Williams will be exposed as a ‘christian’ hypocrite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Hinshaw has been publicly castigated for behavior that should be expected from him as a Hubbert devotee, Jack Williams has escaped calumny. The republican party, if it has any principles to back up its rhetoric, should publicly castigate Jack Williams and investigate his relationship with Randy Brinson (Abramoff $$)for setting the stage (ie providing Hubbert and Hinshaw a green light to bottom feed). Republicans should be outraged at this slight of hand exchequeing by old janus faced Williams. Jack Williams is a disgrace to the republican party, but a rising star to Brinson &amp; Hubbert. I call on Brett Blackledge to put pen to paper and track Jack Williams PAC money for the next year. AEA can launder money like a columbian drug lord, but no lie can live forever. The truth will out and Williams will be exposed as a ‘christian’ hypocrite.
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		<title>by: Blue Dot</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/04/28/on-locking-and-unlocking-house-machines/#comment-23495</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>My understanding of the rule is that it only applies to legislators voting machines other than their own.   If I understand the rule then  Jack Williams could vote his own machine for Knight's bill if he wanted to quid quo pro on taxes.  His explanation doesn't hold water.  Everyone just looks the other way because he says that he wanted to "give tax relief to the elderly"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding of the rule is that it only applies to legislators voting machines other than their own.   If I understand the rule then  Jack Williams could vote his own machine for Knight&#8217;s bill if he wanted to quid quo pro on taxes.  His explanation doesn&#8217;t hold water.  Everyone just looks the other way because he says that he wanted to &#8220;give tax relief to the elderly&#8221;?
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		<title>by: Danny</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/04/28/on-locking-and-unlocking-house-machines/#comment-23452</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 04:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/04/28/on-locking-and-unlocking-house-machines/#comment-23452</guid>
					<description>Blue Dot,

&lt;a href="http://www.al.com/news/huntsvilletimes/index.ssf?/base/news/1208423726187370.xml&#038;coll=1&#038;thispage=3" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Huntsville Times&lt;/i&gt; did&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Williams said he removed the rule not realizing that other machines would be voted and because he had a commitment from Knight to help him with a separate bill to give tax relief to the elderly.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blue Dot,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.al.com/news/huntsvilletimes/index.ssf?/base/news/1208423726187370.xml&#038;coll=1&#038;thispage=3" rel="nofollow"><i>The Huntsville Times</i> did</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Williams said he removed the rule not realizing that other machines would be voted and because he had a commitment from Knight to help him with a separate bill to give tax relief to the elderly.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>by: Blue Dot</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/04/28/on-locking-and-unlocking-house-machines/#comment-23449</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/04/28/on-locking-and-unlocking-house-machines/#comment-23449</guid>
					<description>Has anyone asked why Jack Williams withdrew his request?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone asked why Jack Williams withdrew his request?
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		<title>by: LA</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/04/28/on-locking-and-unlocking-house-machines/#comment-23447</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/04/28/on-locking-and-unlocking-house-machines/#comment-23447</guid>
					<description>The real question in all of this is: how in the world does someone representing Chambers County, a county ravaged by mill closings, vote against taking the state sales tax off groceries?  Mr. Bridges needs to make a trip to the DHR office in Lafayette (as I recently did) and take a look at the increase in food stamp receipents in his home county in the last few months.

Or maybe he has been talking to Senator Larry Dixon of Montgomery who was quoted in the Montgomery Advertiser on Sunday, April 27 as saying:

"I don't care what people say about poor people. Poor people get food stamps. That is a $345 million tax increase on the people I represent.

"The Republicans are not going to let it pass."

(You can scroll down to the Sunday clips on this site and find this quote in the article about the Senate stalemate.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question in all of this is: how in the world does someone representing Chambers County, a county ravaged by mill closings, vote against taking the state sales tax off groceries?  Mr. Bridges needs to make a trip to the DHR office in Lafayette (as I recently did) and take a look at the increase in food stamp receipents in his home county in the last few months.</p>
<p>Or maybe he has been talking to Senator Larry Dixon of Montgomery who was quoted in the Montgomery Advertiser on Sunday, April 27 as saying:</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t care what people say about poor people. Poor people get food stamps. That is a $345 million tax increase on the people I represent.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Republicans are not going to let it pass.&#8221;</p>
<p>(You can scroll down to the Sunday clips on this site and find this quote in the article about the Senate stalemate.)
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		<title>by: Otis Cat</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/04/28/on-locking-and-unlocking-house-machines/#comment-23444</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Other legislators having the ability to vote other's machine, in and of itself, seems like an incredibly bad idea from the very beginning.  I'm sure it's been out there for a long time, but when I heard of this uproar I just sat there amazed that this was what some called a democratic way of doing things.  I've always thought a man's vote was somewhat sacred, and that no one should vote for someone else, unless given specific proxy to do so.   I think this even more after this "Mayberry" episode in the Alabama Legislature.

While fingerprints seem a little extreme, would it not be a relative easy thing for legislators to designate who is allowed to vote for them when they are not present?  This is not rocket science, and we are a long way from Huntsville, so can't the machines be setup to allow only the designated proxy parties to vote on a machine when someone must be absent?

We can put a man on the moon, but we can't devise a way to try and keep the Alabama legislators honest?  Imagine that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other legislators having the ability to vote other&#8217;s machine, in and of itself, seems like an incredibly bad idea from the very beginning.  I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s been out there for a long time, but when I heard of this uproar I just sat there amazed that this was what some called a democratic way of doing things.  I&#8217;ve always thought a man&#8217;s vote was somewhat sacred, and that no one should vote for someone else, unless given specific proxy to do so.   I think this even more after this &#8220;Mayberry&#8221; episode in the Alabama Legislature.</p>
<p>While fingerprints seem a little extreme, would it not be a relative easy thing for legislators to designate who is allowed to vote for them when they are not present?  This is not rocket science, and we are a long way from Huntsville, so can&#8217;t the machines be setup to allow only the designated proxy parties to vote on a machine when someone must be absent?</p>
<p>We can put a man on the moon, but we can&#8217;t devise a way to try and keep the Alabama legislators honest?  Imagine that.
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		<title>by: JD</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/04/28/on-locking-and-unlocking-house-machines/#comment-23440</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>A good old fashion ass whippin' would have a more lasting impression on Hinshaw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good old fashion ass whippin&#8217; would have a more lasting impression on Hinshaw
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		<title>by: walt moffett</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/04/28/on-locking-and-unlocking-house-machines/#comment-23438</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Agree that locking the machine is the cheap and simple solution, but biometric scanners could help with those that "forget" to lock their machines.

the problem of missing votes to tend to other business could also be handled by setting and keeping office hours and the return of the jug, if a brief recess is not forthcoming.

Although, in this age of wonders, why don't we just let the legislators teleconference and vote from there ?

The major problem as pointed out by others is that the public seems willing to overlook it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree that locking the machine is the cheap and simple solution, but biometric scanners could help with those that &#8220;forget&#8221; to lock their machines.</p>
<p>the problem of missing votes to tend to other business could also be handled by setting and keeping office hours and the return of the jug, if a brief recess is not forthcoming.</p>
<p>Although, in this age of wonders, why don&#8217;t we just let the legislators teleconference and vote from there ?</p>
<p>The major problem as pointed out by others is that the public seems willing to overlook it.
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		<title>by: PoliticalJunkie</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/04/28/on-locking-and-unlocking-house-machines/#comment-23437</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I like the idea of a fingerprint reader.  Legislators could designate a proxy whose print would also activate the machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of a fingerprint reader.  Legislators could designate a proxy whose print would also activate the machine.
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