Comments on: New Alabama Line http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/02/28/new-alabama-line/ & Home of Lawn Mower Repair Sat, 17 May 2008 00:41:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: Anonymous http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/02/28/new-alabama-line/#comment-19472 Sat, 01 Mar 2008 22:19:03 +0000 http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/02/28/new-alabama-line/#comment-19472 William Wyatt Wallace - I think you may have a point abut Harri Anne winning without a runoff. I am beginning to think that is as real possibility. I think Love is going to sink very fast as this race progresses. William Wyatt Wallace - I think you may have a point abut Harri Anne winning without a runoff. I am beginning to think that is as real possibility. I think Love is going to sink very fast as this race progresses.

]]> by: William Wyatt Wallace http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/02/28/new-alabama-line/#comment-19430 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:43:32 +0000 http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/02/28/new-alabama-line/#comment-19430 Woods doesn't have a snowballs chance. I would think him and David Grimes should be switched on the line. I also believe giving Bobby Bright so much credit is rather odd. He has that D next to his name and many people will refuse to vote for him because of that. Outside of montgomery in the upper part of the district there is a stigma attached to Bright. I believe he should be about 10-1. I also believe Jay Love should be lower, with such a heavily populated race from montgomery and with them all taking a little from each other, I believe it leaves it wide open for Smith to win outright in a primary. You have 6 candidate. 3 from Montgomery, 3 from the Wiregrass. The three from montgomery have to commpete, two of the candidates in the Wiregrass are barely more than an afterthought already. Woods doesn’t have a snowballs chance. I would think him and David Grimes should be switched on the line. I also believe giving Bobby Bright so much credit is rather odd. He has that D next to his name and many people will refuse to vote for him because of that. Outside of montgomery in the upper part of the district there is a stigma attached to Bright. I believe he should be about 10-1. I also believe Jay Love should be lower, with such a heavily populated race from montgomery and with them all taking a little from each other, I believe it leaves it wide open for Smith to win outright in a primary. You have 6 candidate. 3 from Montgomery, 3 from the Wiregrass. The three from montgomery have to commpete, two of the candidates in the Wiregrass are barely more than an afterthought already.

]]> by: bhmhomeboy http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/02/28/new-alabama-line/#comment-19425 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:38:28 +0000 http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/02/28/new-alabama-line/#comment-19425 Danny, you said: Byrne’s profile is rising, his work in the two-year system plays to the image of the good-guy gunslinger who cleans up the town, and that will probably only increase because that story is not nearly played out. Byrne's is not thought of as a "good-guy gunslinger who clean's up the town". A gunslinger yes, but more like a hired gun. The more this story is "played out" ie. dragging 68 year old grandmothers from the shower, the more people see the light. That story may "play out" in some circles, but it most circles that dog won't hunt. Danny, you said:
Byrne’s profile is rising, his work in the two-year system plays to the image of the good-guy gunslinger who cleans up the town, and that will probably only increase because that story is not nearly played out.

Byrne’s is not thought of as a “good-guy gunslinger who clean’s up the town”. A gunslinger yes, but more like a hired gun. The more this story is “played out” ie. dragging 68 year old grandmothers from the shower, the more people see the light. That story may “play out” in some circles, but it most circles that dog won’t hunt.

]]> by: Anonymous http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/02/28/new-alabama-line/#comment-19424 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:14:13 +0000 http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/02/28/new-alabama-line/#comment-19424 I think we will see the odds in the 2nd congresional district for David Woods narrow and those for Jay Love lengthen as the process plays out. Love is having some problems getting the Montgomery power base behind him; if Woods (or for that matter, Grimes) can do what Love has so far failed to accomplish they might get into the runoff with Smith instead of Love. Personally I think Woods has a better chance of nabbing that "Montgomery" spot in the runoff than Grimes. I think we will see the odds in the 2nd congresional district for David Woods narrow and those for Jay Love lengthen as the process plays out. Love is having some problems getting the Montgomery power base behind him; if Woods (or for that matter, Grimes) can do what Love has so far failed to accomplish they might get into the runoff with Smith instead of Love. Personally I think Woods has a better chance of nabbing that “Montgomery” spot in the runoff than Grimes.

]]> by: Margaret http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/02/28/new-alabama-line/#comment-19423 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:11:36 +0000 http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/02/28/new-alabama-line/#comment-19423 Homey, It is fine with me that we disagree, but the teacher in me wants to see people think critically. One way to do that is to ask people to support their statements with evidence or to explain how they came to a conclusion. I don't think it is asking much to inquire where your ideas are coming from. Homey, It is fine with me that we disagree, but the teacher in me wants to see people think critically. One way to do that is to ask people to support their statements with evidence or to explain how they came to a conclusion. I don’t think it is asking much to inquire where your ideas are coming from.

]]> by: Anonymous http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/02/28/new-alabama-line/#comment-19422 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:06:05 +0000 http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/02/28/new-alabama-line/#comment-19422 Spencer Bachus parlayed Rep State Chairman into a Congressional seat. Jim Gilmore of Virginia parlayed State Chairman into a quick House then Senate then Governor, in I think a 2 year span. Will not happen with Mike , too many other possible candidates he will not challenge if they run Spencer Bachus parlayed Rep State Chairman into a Congressional seat.

Jim Gilmore of Virginia parlayed State Chairman into a quick House then Senate then Governor, in I think a 2 year span.

Will not happen with Mike , too many other possible candidates he will not challenge if they run

]]> by: bhmhomeboy http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/02/28/new-alabama-line/#comment-19421 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:56:21 +0000 http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/02/28/new-alabama-line/#comment-19421 Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, Nothing I say will ever make sense to you, so let's just leave it we agree to disagree, OK? BTW, your little "tame personal attack" didn't "upset" me, I just wondered why you feel the need to resort to personal attacks. That's all. Have a nice life! Maggie, Maggie, Maggie,
Nothing I say will ever make sense to you, so let’s just leave it we agree to disagree, OK?

BTW, your little “tame personal attack” didn’t “upset” me, I just wondered why you feel the need to resort to personal attacks. That’s all.

Have a nice life!

]]> by: Margaret http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/02/28/new-alabama-line/#comment-19420 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:38:14 +0000 http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/02/28/new-alabama-line/#comment-19420 Hi Homey, A while back you were stating that this was a ploy to destroy the 2 year system. I asked you repeatedly why you were claiming this. I thought you never gave an answer that made sense. It seems to me that paying legislators salaries, regardless of party, race or gender from tax payer money, when they really aren't doing any work is corruption and a waste of funds that could be better spent serving our students. I think Ken Guin is a perfect example. Also, it seems that all legislators who got hired after they got elected are being scrutinized. As far as Greeson goes, he was a family farmer before he was elected, then ended up with 2 jobs in the 2 year system. Farming is a noble and necessary occupation, but I am not certain how it prepares someone to be an administrator over programs at a college. I am not saying Greeson is guilty of anything, but looking into his job duties and performance doesn't seem outlandish to me considering all the corruption under the administration of Johnson at the Fire College and the other legislators who have been drawing salaries for little or no work. I am still amazed that you can't see that the 2 year system had problems when it was such a cash cow for our "public servants." Also, I am sorry to have upset you, by a pretty tame "personal attack," but I really do think you ignore any facts that put the Democrats in a bad light. (Will you next claim that the Democratic legislators who own payday loans charging poor people 455% are just helping the needy when they refuse to regulate the business because it will cut into their profits? But I digress.) It might surprise you that I always vote a split ticket and don't vote straight Republican. Neither party is totally free of corruption and neither is totally devoid of people who want to help the citizens of Alabama. You will find good and bad in both parties and to always tow a party line means you are missing a lot of what is actually going on. Hi Homey, A while back you were stating that this was a ploy to destroy the 2 year system. I asked you repeatedly why you were claiming this. I thought you never gave an answer that made sense. It seems to me that paying legislators salaries, regardless of party, race or gender from tax payer money, when they really aren’t doing any work is corruption and a waste of funds that could be better spent serving our students. I think Ken Guin is a perfect example. Also, it seems that all legislators who got hired after they got elected are being scrutinized. As far as Greeson goes, he was a family farmer before he was elected, then ended up with 2 jobs in the 2 year system. Farming is a noble and necessary occupation, but I am not certain how it prepares someone to be an administrator over programs at a college. I am not saying Greeson is guilty of anything, but looking into his job duties and performance doesn’t seem outlandish to me considering all the corruption under the administration of Johnson at the Fire College and the other legislators who have been drawing salaries for little or no work. I am still amazed that you can’t see that the 2 year system had problems when it was such a cash cow for our “public servants.” Also, I am sorry to have upset you, by a pretty tame “personal attack,” but I really do think you ignore any facts that put the Democrats in a bad light. (Will you next claim that the Democratic legislators who own payday loans charging poor people 455% are just helping the needy when they refuse to regulate the business because it will cut into their profits? But I digress.)

It might surprise you that I always vote a split ticket and don’t vote straight Republican. Neither party is totally free of corruption and neither is totally devoid of people who want to help the citizens of Alabama. You will find good and bad in both parties and to always tow a party line means you are missing a lot of what is actually going on.

]]> by: SamfordDem http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/02/28/new-alabama-line/#comment-19412 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:31:24 +0000 http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/02/28/new-alabama-line/#comment-19412 Also, I should say I think Josh Segall probably has about as good a chance of winning his district as Bobby Bright. Bright is obviously a big time candidate but his district is a lot tougher. I would put both about 4-1; not likely, but still very possible. Also, I should say I think Josh Segall probably has about as good a chance of winning his district as Bobby Bright. Bright is obviously a big time candidate but his district is a lot tougher. I would put both about 4-1; not likely, but still very possible.

]]> by: SamfordDem http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/02/28/new-alabama-line/#comment-19410 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:29:06 +0000 http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/02/28/new-alabama-line/#comment-19410 Those who voted for Obama in the presidential primary would not be enough to win in a general election. Many see the Obama/Clinton race as a precursor to a Davis/Folsom race - and there is some truth to that - but I don't think it's entirely accurate. Folsom is not nearly as weak a stump speaker as Hillary Clinton; he has charisma to spare and has a folksy manner that appeals strongly to Alabama Democrats (including those who vote Repub in Prez elections). Davis is more intellectual; he is a strong speaker, but he does not possess Obama's incredible oratory skills. I believe Davis will have a tough time expanding his base into enough votes for a statewide victory. Folsom is a stronger candidate for state office. Davis is a DC guy; that's not a bad thing. I just think Davis' strengths would be better suited to an open Senate race in 2010. That said, Davis could beat Troy King. As soon as they started speaking, any ancient racist beliefs that whites are all smarter than blacks would be demolished. I don't see anyone else making a serious run on the Dem side, barring some unforseen event. As for the Republicans, I think Byrne, King, James, and Hubbard are all strong possibilities. Right now Byrne is in the pole position, but Tim James could definitely be the strongest dark horse. Strong name ID and deep pockets are always a good combo. He seems like he learned from his mistakes last time. Luther Strange would be the only other person I would say has even a remote shot at getting the nod but I don't think he'll run for Gov this time. You folks know more than I do, but I don't know jack about any of the other candidates and that does not bode well for them. Those who voted for Obama in the presidential primary would not be enough to win in a general election. Many see the Obama/Clinton race as a precursor to a Davis/Folsom race - and there is some truth to that - but I don’t think it’s entirely accurate. Folsom is not nearly as weak a stump speaker as Hillary Clinton; he has charisma to spare and has a folksy manner that appeals strongly to Alabama Democrats (including those who vote Repub in Prez elections). Davis is more intellectual; he is a strong speaker, but he does not possess Obama’s incredible oratory skills. I believe Davis will have a tough time expanding his base into enough votes for a statewide victory. Folsom is a stronger candidate for state office. Davis is a DC guy; that’s not a bad thing. I just think Davis’ strengths would be better suited to an open Senate race in 2010. That said, Davis could beat Troy King. As soon as they started speaking, any ancient racist beliefs that whites are all smarter than blacks would be demolished. I don’t see anyone else making a serious run on the Dem side, barring some unforseen event.

As for the Republicans, I think Byrne, King, James, and Hubbard are all strong possibilities. Right now Byrne is in the pole position, but Tim James could definitely be the strongest dark horse. Strong name ID and deep pockets are always a good combo. He seems like he learned from his mistakes last time. Luther Strange would be the only other person I would say has even a remote shot at getting the nod but I don’t think he’ll run for Gov this time. You folks know more than I do, but I don’t know jack about any of the other candidates and that does not bode well for them.

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