Comments on: Why Alabama Democrats Should Vote for Obama

By: Suzanne

Suzanne — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:05:59 +0000

Want to comment to JD and others who see the gamesmanship in nominating Obama.

First, are we going to solve the race problem in America by nominating a black man before he could win in a general election? (My money says he can’t this term, but watch out….he’s a force.)

Second, since when do Democrats choose who the Republicans and independents want them to choose? I am all for losing some of the partisanship. But, nothing in the American political environment shows that Rebublicans feel the same way: except that they think we should nominate Obama. Hmmmmmm. Sounds a little Tom Sawyerish to me (remember the fence painting scenario?).

Third, if anyone believes that Republicans will cross over to vote for Obama, is it because those Republicans like Obama’s policies? The same people who liked George Bush’s? And Cheney’s? And JOE LIEBERMAN’S.

I have heard the most vile things said about Senator Lieberman by Democrats. Why? Because he “crossed over.” He participates in closing ranks between Dems and Reps. This appears to be the single message of Obama. So, why is his saying it like the “second coming” and Lieberman saying it intolerable.

Obama cannot get the Republicans he needs in the general. So Dems will simply have 8 more yearsof Rep rule.

My greater concern for Dems is this: why would we nominate someone whose entire campaign is about dropping partisanship? Because it “feels good.”

We would do well to steer away from Obama this term, and hope that he toughens up for next time. Why? Poor judgment on the “let’s all be friends” campaign thinking.

By: bhmhomeboy

bhmhomeboy — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:58:44 +0000

Redneck gal wouldn’t vote for Obama regardless of his religious peferance. I’m tired of our country being held hostage by the likes of redneck gal. I am going to pray there are more reasonable, tolerant and intelligent people in America than there are redneck gals.

By: JD

JD — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:41:43 +0000

Roy, I apologize. My cynicism is showing. I am Independent. Neither Democrat nor Republican. I usually decide which primary to vote in based on which ballot has the most dangerous scoundrels who need voting against. But I want this bunch “leading ” our country now gone.
My arguments against gObama are pragmatic. I dont want the Democrats to pick the least electable candidate as they have done so often in my lifetime.
Here’s an example of what I was talking about. Two days this week Oboma has repeated and repeated… I AM A CHRISTIAN… The next day I am standing in a bank lobby listening to this redneck woman tell the teller.. “Yep he wont even say the pledge of allegiance..” the teller asks “why not”..rednack gal…” Cause he’s a Muslim “..

By: bhmhomeboy

bhmhomeboy — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:35:43 +0000

Question for RightDemocrat:
When you say that Edwards is the only candidate that can appeal to voters in the South, it will be because he’s a Southern white male?

From reading some of the comments posted I’ve come to the conclusion we are this mess because of the ignorance and prejudices of Southern white males.

By: Roy

Roy — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:10:19 +0000

In other words, JD: Never underestimate the ignorance and prejudices of the American voter?

By: JD

JD — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:42:11 +0000

If Democrats want to win, and not snatch defeat from the jaws of victory as they have so often done, they ne to leave Obama at home. Yes,Hillary has high negative ratings and hard-core Hillary-Haters, but consider this. She has been slimed all they can slime her. Anything that could be uncovered has been uncovered.
Obama and supporters have no idea how bad it will get, And the operators of the slime machine are salivating at the prospect of having Obama to target.
The race card will be played to heighten racial fears. Go down the list. Daddy from Africa. Black man white woman. He will be portrayed as a teenage drug dealer. And of course theres the middle name. And his repeat protestations he is a Christian, not MUslim.
If the slime machine can convince a gullible public that John Kerry , who actualy went in the service and went to Vietnam and had shots fired at him, was actually the war traitor. While the drunken frat boy who joined to guard to hide..then didnt show up was actually the patriot. What do you think they will do to Obama?

By: Captain Plaid

Captain Plaid — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:53:21 +0000

I’ve posted on this at Captain Plaid. My thinking is that Chauncey needs to look at this 2008 race as an opportunity. Take the long view! Build, frame, … but mostly fight back against the right wing as they continue to define those that oppose them. I also fear Chauncey has us focused on just one race that the GOP will win absent George Wallace or Dale Earnhart or Paul “Bear” Bryant or … being the Democratic nominee. Coat tails will not or hardly apply in Alabama in 2008. My post may be found at http://captainplaid.blogspot.com/2008/01/outlander-of-day-chauncey-sparks.html

By: walt moffett

walt moffett — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 04:11:30 +0000

Right Democrat, always good to see sunny optimism in the face of adversity.

By: Right Democrat

Right Democrat — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:48:11 +0000

John Edwards is definitely the best choice for Democrats. Neither Clinton or Obama are going to have much appeal to voters in the South. With his populist message, Edwards can restore the Democratic Party as the party of working families.

By: Moe

Moe — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:06:48 +0000

Keep in mind when you hear Bill Clinton talking trash this week about Obama that he was a failure as a President because he lost two years of his second term – and an ability to leave a legacy – because of a lie that led to an impeachment attempt. The fact that he is lying now shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone. We simply cannot afford, as Democrats, to risk losing our momentum, our majority in the legislature (Clinton lost that in 1994), and a real chance to move Democratic policies forward in DC by installing the divisive Clinton gang back into the White House.

By: Terry

Terry — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:26:44 +0000

I agree with your post entirely. However, I think that Alabama democrats will vote for Hillary Clinton. Obama will not win here. It will also be interesting to see how much of a factor John Edwards will be here, his campaign has named Alabama as one southern state they expect him to do well in.

By: bhmhomeboy

bhmhomeboy — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:12:42 +0000

Comment by der?
I don’t see how John McCain can unify the country because he’s said our troops will occupy Iraq for the next 100 years. The majority of Americans want our troops out of Iraq sooner rather than later. John McCain is at odds with the majority of the American people.

By: Paine

Paine — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:06:44 +0000

“Sources within the Alabama Clinton camp count Folsom and Turnham as supporters, even though they aren’t public with their support.” That is your admission, Chauncey, in comment number 7. That is badly at odds with your oepning statement in your article, “Jim Folsom, Ron Sparks, Susan Parker, Joe Turnham, Joe Reed, Patricia Todd, and many of the party’s leading lights are publicly supporting Hillary.” And according to FEC reports, Turnham has been fairly open with his support, or at least his checkbook has been.

By: der?

der? — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:15:57 +0000

I am one of the folks that in a state where I can decide which primary to vote in, am deciding whether to vote for Obama or McCain. I sincerely believe either one of them will help with the unity of our country behind bold ideas, and hope both are their parties’ nominee.

It really depends on who i discern needs more help to win the primary as to which ballot I will request.

By: SamfordDem

SamfordDem — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:50:23 +0000

I do totally agree with your point, though. That’s why I’m backing Obama.