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		<title>by: Danny</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/01/18/turnham-calls-riley-out/#comment-16345</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 06:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks, Anonymous in comment #18.

The really funny thing about the question in comment #3 was that I figured if anybody would be grumbling about the stories around here lately it would be the Dems.  Been a little quieter here lately on that side of the aisle.

Then you have somebody like the commenter in 19 who thinks the headline is unfair, or biased, or partisan, or inaccurate, or something.  You never know what you'll get around here.  LOL.  The kids these days, I guess I don't know all their hip lingo as well as I'd like.  If "calling somebody out" is an insult, or an unfair description of the post's content, or somehow inaccurate here, then I guess I need a crash course in how it's used.  Took 19 comments before anyone made mention of it, so I must not have butchered its use too terribly.  LOL

Anyway, thanks again, #18.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Anonymous in comment #18.</p>
<p>The really funny thing about the question in comment #3 was that I figured if anybody would be grumbling about the stories around here lately it would be the Dems.  Been a little quieter here lately on that side of the aisle.</p>
<p>Then you have somebody like the commenter in 19 who thinks the headline is unfair, or biased, or partisan, or inaccurate, or something.  You never know what you&#8217;ll get around here.  LOL.  The kids these days, I guess I don&#8217;t know all their hip lingo as well as I&#8217;d like.  If &#8220;calling somebody out&#8221; is an insult, or an unfair description of the post&#8217;s content, or somehow inaccurate here, then I guess I need a crash course in how it&#8217;s used.  Took 19 comments before anyone made mention of it, so I must not have butchered its use too terribly.  LOL</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks again, #18.
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/01/18/turnham-calls-riley-out/#comment-16332</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 04:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>A totally fair and balanced headline (LOL).</description>
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/01/18/turnham-calls-riley-out/#comment-16323</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/01/18/turnham-calls-riley-out/#comment-16323</guid>
					<description>Anonymous at #3 - a lot of us GOP types on here think Danny does a good job on being "fair and balanced."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous at #3 - a lot of us GOP types on here think Danny does a good job on being &#8220;fair and balanced.&#8221;
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		<title>by: cooper</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/01/18/turnham-calls-riley-out/#comment-16307</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>thanks for clarifying danny.  I was beginning to think you were Joe Turnham's puppet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for clarifying danny.  I was beginning to think you were Joe Turnham&#8217;s puppet.
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		<title>by: Danny</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/01/18/turnham-calls-riley-out/#comment-16272</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 04:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/01/18/turnham-calls-riley-out/#comment-16272</guid>
					<description>Anonymous in comment 3 wrote:
&lt;i&gt;How come I always see the Democrats’ spin and press releases on this blog, but never the GOP’s?&lt;/i&gt;

It must be because you don't come around very often.

Otherwise, you would have seen Charles Bishop's release here yesterday, or Tim James here the day before on his campaign to the point that a commenter suggested I was his publicist.  You would have seen Mike Hubbard's glowing remarks about the GOP's fundraising success last week, and you would have seen David Woods talking about running for AL-02.  You would have seen news from Jay Love on fundraising, and recent news from Jim Main... when Harri Anne Smith was declaring her candidacy for AL-02, I was accused of being overly biased on her behalf... on and on...  Mike Hubbard did a long three part interview...

Hard for me to know why you don't ever see Republican viewpoints here - because others do.  In fact, on the face of it, the question was silly enough that I almost just ignored it, but I hated for some first time reader to stumble on this post and think the question had merit.

Glad you are here.  Keep reading.  Some things you'll like and some you won't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous in comment 3 wrote:<br />
<i>How come I always see the Democrats’ spin and press releases on this blog, but never the GOP’s?</i></p>
<p>It must be because you don&#8217;t come around very often.</p>
<p>Otherwise, you would have seen Charles Bishop&#8217;s release here yesterday, or Tim James here the day before on his campaign to the point that a commenter suggested I was his publicist.  You would have seen Mike Hubbard&#8217;s glowing remarks about the GOP&#8217;s fundraising success last week, and you would have seen David Woods talking about running for AL-02.  You would have seen news from Jay Love on fundraising, and recent news from Jim Main&#8230; when Harri Anne Smith was declaring her candidacy for AL-02, I was accused of being overly biased on her behalf&#8230; on and on&#8230;  Mike Hubbard did a long three part interview&#8230;</p>
<p>Hard for me to know why you don&#8217;t ever see Republican viewpoints here - because others do.  In fact, on the face of it, the question was silly enough that I almost just ignored it, but I hated for some first time reader to stumble on this post and think the question had merit.</p>
<p>Glad you are here.  Keep reading.  Some things you&#8217;ll like and some you won&#8217;t.
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		<title>by: Pookie</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/01/18/turnham-calls-riley-out/#comment-16266</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 02:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/01/18/turnham-calls-riley-out/#comment-16266</guid>
					<description>Anonymous - "Now that sounds like a good idea in a state where lobbyists are so numerous they lobby each other."

"Gov. Riley was right to kill this charade. Legislators should be ashamed, but then it's difficult to shame that bunch." 

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If you don't have the money and power to endlessly annoy legislators or to buy them off, you have to play by the rules enacted at the behest of the people who do. We are not a state of majority rule; we are ruled by lobbyists. The majority merely decides which politicians will pass the laws supported by lobbyists.

The expansion of lobbying simply creates the need for more people to engage in more lobbying. Nobody wins except the politicians and the lobbyists. Lobbying acts as a tax on productivity. It produces nothing except a reallocation of resources from the losers to the winners. It also creates inefficiencies which reduce our ability to compete globally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous - &#8220;Now that sounds like a good idea in a state where lobbyists are so numerous they lobby each other.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Gov. Riley was right to kill this charade. Legislators should be ashamed, but then it&#8217;s difficult to shame that bunch.&#8221; </p>
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<p>If you don&#8217;t have the money and power to endlessly annoy legislators or to buy them off, you have to play by the rules enacted at the behest of the people who do. We are not a state of majority rule; we are ruled by lobbyists. The majority merely decides which politicians will pass the laws supported by lobbyists.</p>
<p>The expansion of lobbying simply creates the need for more people to engage in more lobbying. Nobody wins except the politicians and the lobbyists. Lobbying acts as a tax on productivity. It produces nothing except a reallocation of resources from the losers to the winners. It also creates inefficiencies which reduce our ability to compete globally.
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		<title>by: margaret</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/01/18/turnham-calls-riley-out/#comment-16258</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I find the Democratic party particularly hypocritical on this issue since their leadership in the Senate routinely kills most any ethics legislation of substance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the Democratic party particularly hypocritical on this issue since their leadership in the Senate routinely kills most any ethics legislation of substance.
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/01/18/turnham-calls-riley-out/#comment-16243</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/01/18/turnham-calls-riley-out/#comment-16243</guid>
					<description>Republicans raise money, Turnham raises his voice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicans raise money, Turnham raises his voice.
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/01/18/turnham-calls-riley-out/#comment-16242</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Here's what the Decatur Daily editorial board said about this sham bill the Legislature passed.  And the Daily is certainly no friend to the GOP:

DECATUR DAILY
June 22, 2007
Ethics bill was only a political charade

In politics, up is sometimes down, black is white, yes is no, and strengthening ethics laws is actually making them weaker. 
Welcome to the Alabama Legislature where both houses unanimously passed legislation to expand the list of people who must register with the State Ethics Commission and file reports on their activities. 
Now that sounds like a good idea in a state where lobbyists are so numerous they lobby each other. Actually, the bill Gov. Bob Riley vetoed this week is a cover-up for the Senate failing year after year to pass meaningful ethics and campaign financing legislation. 
This legislation is so cumbersome that, if law, it would create a massive outcry from people who are on the periphery of lobbying and thwart attempts at real legislation. 
Jim Sumner, who heads the State Ethics Commission and is a proponent of stronger ethics laws, quickly saw the bill’s flaws. 
Legislators, he said, didn’t consult him before passing the legislation. If they had, Mr. Sumner would have told them the bill is virtually inoperable. The Legislature’s Contract Review Committee already reviews contracts called for in the bill. 
Gov. Riley was right to kill this charade. Legislators should be ashamed, but then it’s difficult to shame that bunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what the Decatur Daily editorial board said about this sham bill the Legislature passed.  And the Daily is certainly no friend to the GOP:</p>
<p>DECATUR DAILY<br />
June 22, 2007<br />
Ethics bill was only a political charade</p>
<p>In politics, up is sometimes down, black is white, yes is no, and strengthening ethics laws is actually making them weaker.<br />
Welcome to the Alabama Legislature where both houses unanimously passed legislation to expand the list of people who must register with the State Ethics Commission and file reports on their activities.<br />
Now that sounds like a good idea in a state where lobbyists are so numerous they lobby each other. Actually, the bill Gov. Bob Riley vetoed this week is a cover-up for the Senate failing year after year to pass meaningful ethics and campaign financing legislation.<br />
This legislation is so cumbersome that, if law, it would create a massive outcry from people who are on the periphery of lobbying and thwart attempts at real legislation.<br />
Jim Sumner, who heads the State Ethics Commission and is a proponent of stronger ethics laws, quickly saw the bill’s flaws.<br />
Legislators, he said, didn’t consult him before passing the legislation. If they had, Mr. Sumner would have told them the bill is virtually inoperable. The Legislature’s Contract Review Committee already reviews contracts called for in the bill.<br />
Gov. Riley was right to kill this charade. Legislators should be ashamed, but then it’s difficult to shame that bunch.
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		<title>by: Gunney Highway</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2008/01/18/turnham-calls-riley-out/#comment-16239</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Damn, they must have read my post as I was writing it. At least I got the quick part right. 

I'll agree again Walt, Clinton is fodder to the choir, but he was good to most of the congregation. 

I do particularly like the "corruption free and ethical Administration,” comment. I hope they don't end up eating their words on that one. Watch out for career-tech to come back and bite em somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, they must have read my post as I was writing it. At least I got the quick part right. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll agree again Walt, Clinton is fodder to the choir, but he was good to most of the congregation. </p>
<p>I do particularly like the &#8220;corruption free and ethical Administration,” comment. I hope they don&#8217;t end up eating their words on that one. Watch out for career-tech to come back and bite em somewhere.
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