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	<title>Comments on: Two Competing Minimum Wage Bills</title>
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		<title>by: ALmod</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2007/03/27/two-competing-minimum-wage-bills/#comment-2972</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I actually support minimum wage legislation for the same reasons that I understand child labor, work safety, and product safety legislation is needed.  There are too many desperate people and too many greedy corporate types waiting to take advantage of them for "market forces" alone to be effective.  If that were not the case, then we'd have seen a wage increase without federal legislation, since corporate profits have soared.  Instead, we see workers left with a choice of work for what we'll pay or don't work and don't get paid.  It's not a real choice.

Dan, you touched on the trans-fat legislation, and I'm honestly not sure where I stand on that.  It's an ingredient that serves no purpose except to extend shelf life and save a little money (maybe).  It does nothing for taste, but it's effectively poisoning your body.  So I can see the legitimacy in saying that it would fall under legislating food quality.

I'm not as extreme conservative as most.  I understand that some government regulation is needed some of the time.  Otherwise, you have anarchy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually support minimum wage legislation for the same reasons that I understand child labor, work safety, and product safety legislation is needed.  There are too many desperate people and too many greedy corporate types waiting to take advantage of them for &#8220;market forces&#8221; alone to be effective.  If that were not the case, then we&#8217;d have seen a wage increase without federal legislation, since corporate profits have soared.  Instead, we see workers left with a choice of work for what we&#8217;ll pay or don&#8217;t work and don&#8217;t get paid.  It&#8217;s not a real choice.</p>
<p>Dan, you touched on the trans-fat legislation, and I&#8217;m honestly not sure where I stand on that.  It&#8217;s an ingredient that serves no purpose except to extend shelf life and save a little money (maybe).  It does nothing for taste, but it&#8217;s effectively poisoning your body.  So I can see the legitimacy in saying that it would fall under legislating food quality.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not as extreme conservative as most.  I understand that some government regulation is needed some of the time.  Otherwise, you have anarchy.
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		<title>by: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2007/03/27/two-competing-minimum-wage-bills/#comment-2955</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 03:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The official party line is that market forces miracuously will keep children from working in poor conditions or that a parent should have the ability to raise their children as they see fit. Food safety? Probably market forces would ensure that unsafe products didn't sell well so the food company would have a profit reason to sell a good product.

Me personally? I accept some child endangerment legislation because you can't exercise freedom for your benefit if you're too young to make decisions for yourself. It's an iffy line soemtimes of where the parents have control and where the state can say the parent is unfit, but I think we're probably at the right spot in all but public education institutions and their ridiculous "no tolerance" policies. Jefferson County is even starting to throw people in jail for taking too many family vacations. I also don't like too much government control over what I eat. I despise New York's recent ban on trans fat. I think the best thing government can do in that regard is ensure the consumer has information in regards to proper food labels and stuff like that.

But if I had to choose between the system we have now with child labor and food safety and the extreme libertarian model of no regulation, I would go with the extreme libertarian model of no regulation. I trust my own judgement about my child's well-being and my family's diet a lot more than I trust government's judgement.

Maybe that's more than you wanted...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The official party line is that market forces miracuously will keep children from working in poor conditions or that a parent should have the ability to raise their children as they see fit. Food safety? Probably market forces would ensure that unsafe products didn&#8217;t sell well so the food company would have a profit reason to sell a good product.</p>
<p>Me personally? I accept some child endangerment legislation because you can&#8217;t exercise freedom for your benefit if you&#8217;re too young to make decisions for yourself. It&#8217;s an iffy line soemtimes of where the parents have control and where the state can say the parent is unfit, but I think we&#8217;re probably at the right spot in all but public education institutions and their ridiculous &#8220;no tolerance&#8221; policies. Jefferson County is even starting to throw people in jail for taking too many family vacations. I also don&#8217;t like too much government control over what I eat. I despise New York&#8217;s recent ban on trans fat. I think the best thing government can do in that regard is ensure the consumer has information in regards to proper food labels and stuff like that.</p>
<p>But if I had to choose between the system we have now with child labor and food safety and the extreme libertarian model of no regulation, I would go with the extreme libertarian model of no regulation. I trust my own judgement about my child&#8217;s well-being and my family&#8217;s diet a lot more than I trust government&#8217;s judgement.</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s more than you wanted&#8230;
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2007/03/27/two-competing-minimum-wage-bills/#comment-2954</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 02:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Where are you libertarians on stuff like child labor and food safety laws?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are you libertarians on stuff like child labor and food safety laws?
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		<title>by: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2007/03/27/two-competing-minimum-wage-bills/#comment-2952</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 02:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm with Brian on this one. Individual freedom and de-centralized government is the way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Brian on this one. Individual freedom and de-centralized government is the way to go.
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		<title>by: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.politicalparlor.net/wp/2007/03/27/two-competing-minimum-wage-bills/#comment-2950</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 01:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hmmm... I actually oppose both.  Todd's because I don't think it is the government's place to intervene in a contract between a willing worker and a willing employer.  Williams' because I support government being conducted as close to home as possible and if a municipality wanted to set their own minimum wage, even though I oppose that act, they should have the freedom to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; I actually oppose both.  Todd&#8217;s because I don&#8217;t think it is the government&#8217;s place to intervene in a contract between a willing worker and a willing employer.  Williams&#8217; because I support government being conducted as close to home as possible and if a municipality wanted to set their own minimum wage, even though I oppose that act, they should have the freedom to do so.
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