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I think any other post just couldn’t describe this day accurately enough…

I think any other post just couldn’t describe this day accurately enough…

House, Senate vote to give selves 60 percent pay raise

3/8/2007, 1:47 p.m. ET

By BOB JOHNSON

The Associated Press

MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) — Members of the Alabama House and Senate voted Thursday to give themselves a pay raise of about 60 percent.

Gov. Bob Riley promised to veto it, but said he expects it to be overridden in both chambers.

“We know that we don’t have the votes,” he said.

The House approved the resolution raising the annual compensation for lawmakers from $30,710 to $49,500 in an unrecorded voice vote shortly after going into session, and many members said they were not aware the pay raise was going to be introduced.

The Senate quickly followed by passing the measure, also on an unrecorded voice vote. Several Republican senators tried to get a recorded vote, but the presiding officer, Lt. Gov. Jim Folsom Jr., ignored their shouts and raised hands.

It now goes to Riley for his signature or veto. Riley said last week in an interview with The Associated Press he would most likely veto a large raise for legislators, who have not had one in 16 years. Lawmakers can override the governor’s veto with a majority vote, but it must be a recorded vote.

“We’ll do that on the override,” said Sen. Bobby Denton, D-Muscle Shoals, who supports a raise.

House Speaker Seth Hammett said he did not take a recorded vote because no members requested one. Hammett said members deserve a raise because of the length of time that has passed since their pay was adjusted.

The General Fund budget presented to the Legislature by Gov. Riley does not include funds for a raise for state employees. Hammett was asked if it is fair to give lawmakers a raise and not one to state employees.

“We’ve been providing state employees with pay raises on a regular basis. Their pay has increased the last two years,” Hammett said.

State Rep. John Rogers, D-Birmingham, said lawmakers deserve a raise because they have not received one since 1991.

“We’ve given everybody in the whole state a pay raise and we haven’t gotten one,” Rogers said, referring to pay increases given to teachers and state employees in recent years.

The measure, sponsored in the House by Speaker Pro Tem Demetrius Newton, D-Birmingham, raises the monthly expense allowance lawmakers receive from $2,280 to $3,850. Their other daily compensation for legislative meeting days remains the same.

Some lawmakers said they would have voted “no” had there been a recorded vote.

“I knew what I was getting paid when I ran for office,” said Rep. Cam Ward, R-Alabaster. Ward said he believes the current pay for lawmakers may be too low, but he doesn’t believe most Alabama residents believe legislators need more money.

“I don’t feel my constituents will support this,” Ward said.

In the Senate, freshman Sen. Arthur Orr, D-Decatur, was among a group of Republicans shouting for a roll call vote rather than a voice vote.

“Doing a pay raise in this format tarnishes the image of the Senate,” he said.

Between the House and Senate votes, the Legislature held a brief joint session to hear from Czech Republic President Vaclav Klaus, who was wrapping up a two-day visit to the state.

Klaus noted that in his country and any other democracy, it’s commonplace for lawmakers to want to raise their pay and for the public to criticize it.

“This is a universal process I’m afraid in a democratic society,” he said.

5 comments to I think any other post just couldn’t describe this day accurately enough…

  • Anonymous

    Rep. Ward does the $30,710 figure include a per diem? Also aren’t lawmakers reimbursed for committee work?

  • It is a very goofy pay system as far as how it is set up. That $30,710 figure includes everything including committees. Just as an FYI on how it is structured and without getting into all the merits of an increase or decrease here the system for how legislators are paid:

    1. Every day we are in session we get $10.
    2. We get $150 a week to cover your hotel expenses and any meals you eat.(not that this matters but my hotel at government rate is $172 a week).
    3. You get one mileage check per session. It is based upon our lovely 1901 Constitution which states you get a check to reimburse you for mileage from the train station closest to where you live to the State Capitol. My one check per session for mileage and gas is $14.01.
    4. We get $2,220 per month before taxes for expenses. This money is used for car repair, gas, letterhead, mail, cell phone, meals, etc. In all honesty this is where if any you actually make more than you expend. Anything above your expenses you get taxed. I usually do have some left at the end of the year after expenses.
    5. When we are not in session you get $50 per deim if you come to Montgomery for a committee meeting plus $10 a day you are in the Montgomery for the committee meeting. Every legisaltor is different on this issue because some have more committees than others. I have a little bit higher than average number of committees and I would say I have about 14 meetings a year when we are not in session.

    All of this above is added and averaged to come up with the $30,710. Again the only reason I listed all of it out is because it is so confusing as to how they pay us. Most people will not admit this but it took me a year to figure out this complicated system. You never get just one lump pay check it is always a bunch of small checks leaving you to ask now is this for gas? for lodging? meals?

    Hope this info helps.

  • Susan

    Rep. Ward, thank you for explaining the legislatve compensation. Thank you also for standng up for the taxpayers of Alabama. Will the veto override vote require a roll call vote?

  • When the Governor Vetoes the bill by law we have to have a recorded vote. Really the only vote to look at is whether someone is Yes. Not voting or a No vote is the same as sustaining the Governor’s Veto. 53 votes in the House and 18 votes in the Senate are required to override his veto.

  • Rick

    That was a very interesting breakdown of the pay scale for legislators. Maybe if this was published in a more public format(newspapers, radio,etc.) the voters would be a little more receptive to a pay increase. Before reading that I just looked at 30k as a salary(higher than my salary).

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