A well-reasoned argument with solid sourcing always helps make a case. I do appreciate you providing a link.

However, I see nothing on the page whose link you provided so very enthusiastically (”YES, REALLY! HERE IS YOUR LINK!”) that indicates people who are in the country illegally “murder 9,000 Americans per yr.” as you claimed. Nothing.

Is it on another page on the site? Am I supposed to hunt down your statistic for you?

The only thing I could find was not on the page you linked, but on this page instead (from the same site), where it quoted “between 1,806 and 2,510 people in the U.S. are murdered annually by illegal aliens.” Though that itself was thinly sourced, it was a far cry from your statement that 9000 Americans are murdered each year by people here illegally – a statement for which you still have not provided a source.

There are many reasons I am very doubtful of that extraordinary claim you make (for one, you would be saying that over half of all murders in the United States are of Americans by people here illegally, here’s one list of murders per year citing the FBI as a source). Even the site you link to for me suggests that the # may be one-fourth of what you say. I would still be glad to learn you can back up the claim with something credible.

I appreciate your zeal for this topic. Credible numbers and solid sourcing will help your case, while incredible numbers have the opposite effect. (I don’t care to go clicking around to try to help you make your point, but if you have a link that takes me straight to the right page, I’m glad to see it!)

Let’s see if we can somehow bring this back around to the topic of the thread… who’s running for what in 2010?

http://www.usillegalaliens.com/

http://www.usillegalaliens.com/

The Dark Side Of Illegal Immigration
Facts, Figures And Statistics On Illegal Immigration

Please read these criminal facts thoroughly. Most of it is NOT reported. Many times the names of the perpetrator(s) are left out of the media.

JUST KEEP HIRING THESE ILLEGALS! BUT PLEASE KNOW THAT “YOU” ARE COSTING TAXPAYERS $385 BILLION PER YR TO SUBSIDIZE “YOUR” BUSINESS (public schools for their children, medicaid, food stamps HUD housing, SSI payment from social security (YES, “YOUR” social security that is going broke), free hospitalization, free LEGAL DEFENSE FOR ALL THESE MURDERS, RAPES, GANGS, KIDNAPPINGS, DUIs, WIFE BEATING), PRISON.

Your taxes feed, house, provide medical care, and a monthly SSI check for ILLEGALS, while American citizens you’ve FIRED go jobless, houseless, and hungry!
They are robbing YOUR social security fund, and pay not one penny of federal taxes since most are paid under the table. THEY make a better living that YOU.

The crimes, rapes, and deaths of American citizens would NOT be occurring if YOU were not offering them jobs.

Illegal immigrants murder 9,000 Americans per year?? Really now? Would you provide a link for that please?

Thank you very much.

Danny

This 2004 video shows Rep Artur Davis and 5 other Democrats vociferously “refuting” reports showing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in trouble, and praising Raines’ management and huge bonuses. Five years later TAXPAYERS have had to bail Fannie and Freddie out by TRILLIONS…about 3 times now. Mr. Davis should NOT be elected to ANY SEAT, much less Governor!. He has no idea what fiscal responsibility “is”!

1. Rep Artur Davis, AL,
2. Rep Gregory Meeks, NY
3. Rep Lacy Clay, MO
4. Rep Maxine Waters, CA,
5. Barney Frank, MA,
6. President Clinton

For instance, we’ve had NO ACTION WHATSOEVER on passing E-Verify and other legislation to get rid of the thousands of illegals in this state taking all the construction jobs (and specifically in Huntsville and Birmingham). They are working on every street, while Alabamians who WERE working those jobs now reside at the MISSION (I’ve hired these people).

TAXPAYERS are paying $385 billion per yr SUBSIDIZING THIS ILLEGAL CORPORATE LABOR.
Free public school @ $15K per child, food stamps, HUD housing, medicaid, free hospitalization, prison costs for the 30% illegals, FREE LEGAL DEFENSE while they rape children, rob, murder 9,000 Americans per yr. TAXPAYERS must build more schools and prisons, hire more teachers and policemen, hire more court personnel. Our courts, highways, schools, and hospital waiting rooms are crowded with them. WE ARE FED UP! STOP THIS OUTRAGE!

The Ala legislature is catering to BIG BUSINESS and CORPORATIONS, while Ala has a jobless rate over 12%, Ala Building Contractors are hiring ILLEGALS while LEGAL CITIZEN construction workers have lost their jobs, their homes, and their children are “starving”. Many can’t get “assistance” because their homes aren’t foreclosed yet. I am SICK of this “elitism” by the Ala legislature.

I will NOT vote for even ONE INCUMBENT, or “former” incumbent.

If there are more INDEPENDENTS out there, PLEASE PUT YOUR NAME ON THE BALLOT!
These same old people on the ballot will do exactly what they’ve always done…..nothing!

Those incumbents at the Public Service Commission need to be voted out.
Please, let’s have more challengers!

http://www.robjohnagainstcongress.com/2010/01/another-response-to-bobby-bright.html

Rob John, try your question in the Daily News Digest area, especially after a link “Sen Foo proposes law to regulate finklation of the vorlon menace” or some such. Probably get a better response.